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11 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said:

That is it, as far as I know. $11 - no biggie.

Thanks, Chuck. Yeah, I figured as much. Was just curious if there was another option I was overlooking — but I’ll probably spring for that Conception comp soon.

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BTW, I spent some time with the Konitz/Marsh/Evans at the Half Note material early last week — spun the whole thing maybe 3x — and Lennie is (I’m afraid) sorely missing.

Not that Bill Evans sticks out or anything (as I said before, he practically lays out half the time) — and Lennie’s absence is really striking, by comparison to all the Lennie that I  was suddenly listening to a couple days later on the new box.

But the Konitz/Marsh frontline is still wonderful, and it’s still a fortunate thing to have documented.

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4 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said:

BTW, I spent some time with the Konitz/Marsh/Evans at the Half Note material early last week — spun the whole thing maybe 3x — and Lennie is (I’m afraid) sorely missing.

Not that Bill Evans sticks out or anything (as I said before, he practically lays out half the time) — and Lennie’s absence is really striking, by comparison to all the Lennie that I  was suddenly listening to a couple days later on the new box.

But the Konitz/Marsh frontline is still wonderful, and it’s still a fortunate thing to have documented.

I think that the "absence" of the piano that night opened them both up, especially Warne.

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Tracks #10-15, Recorded at ABC Studios, Hollywood, March 11, 1957

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"These tracks date from the time Marsh spent back in his hometown - well, Los Angeles - from February 1956 to November 1957, leading a quintet that was something of a Tristano student reunion. 

Disc one reprises the material that once appeared on the Imperial and Kapp labels, and there are some very familiar characteristics: improbably tricky themes deriving from familiar harmonic territory - Ball, Brown and Marsh all contribute - propelling the improvisation into fascinating demonstrations of agility. Marsh and Brown are never exactly competitive, but clearly stimulate each other intensely; at times they wrap around themselves almost organically, prodded on by Ball's perfectly-judged piano work. 

Yet there's also a wider aspect to it; the two tenors give the front line a somewhat heavier character than you might expect from the experience of Marsh and Konitz: bassist Tucker gets to feature on his own "Ben Blew" and Jeff Morton gets to play with the sticks, which he never did with Lennie. By the time "I Never Knew" comes along, with its drum-breaks, stop-time bounces and Condon Gang coda, there's a distinct feeling that school's out. 

Disc two introduces Art Pepper into the mix: nine tracks - "Aretha" through "Arrival" - feature him. Originally on a Vanguard LP, it was in fact Brown's date, came out under his name, Marsh no more than a bystander and adviver. A further move away from Tritano's influence, less convolution, though the two noted above, by Ball, and Marsh's "Long Gone", set up more thematic obstacle-courses. Pepper copes well, sometimes superbly, and also makes you realise why Konitz fitted so easily into his chair in the Kenton band. 

The final 15 minutes is back into the Marsh-Brown configuration, and is taken from a TV show of the period. Bobby Troup does the talking, and shows an understanding of the music. A good, though inevitably brief, version of "Background Music", plus two minutes of improvising on "Pop Goes The Weasel". Really. 

These sessions mark the start of Marsh's career as leader and organiser, and as such fill an important gap in his history."

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1 hour ago, Larry Kart said:

On Disc Two of the new Mosaic Tristano set, it sounds to me at times like Lee is trying to rival or even exceed Lennie. Fantastic playing in any case.

You must mean Disc Three (because CD2 is the solo-piano disc).  Entirely by coincidence, I'd just finished disc 2, and just started disc 3, just as I saw your post that I'm quoting here!

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3 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said:

You must mean Disc Three (because CD2 is the solo-piano disc).  Entirely by coincidence, I'd just finished disc 2, and just started disc 3, just as I saw your post that I'm quoting here!

You're right.

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On 2/25/2021 at 8:32 AM, jazzbo said:

Muzak of Japan released these (I believe legitimately) on a 2 cd set last year that sounds wonderful.

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https://www.dustygroove.com/item/948926?sf=Lee+Konitz&incl_oos=1&incl_cs=1&kwfilter=Lee+Konitz&sort_order=artist

From Dusty Groove, I just picked up a copy of this very Musak Japanese 2CD reissue of the complete Konitz Storyville recs -- which I've been diggin' all morning -- every bit as much as the first two discs of the Tristano/Konitz/Marsh Mosaic (the live Tristano-Konitz stuff recorded at The Sing Song Room, Confucius Restaurant in '55).  Hadn't dreamed I like it as much as I do, but man this is some really nice stuff!

I knew all this Storyville material had come out before on a couple Black Lion CD's (which I've never heard) -- but I finally decided to bite the bullet and spring for this Japanese 2CD version -- which sounds great! (I'm sure better, maybe even far better(?)... than any Black Lion CDs ever could).  So quite thankfully, no regrats!

And I *also* picked up a copy of the Tristano/Billy-Bauer trios on Key Note (Essential Keynote Collection, Vol 2) -- quite cheap, $6.  Despite all the alternates being programmed in sequence, I really dug the heck out of it this morning too.

Was a little nervous either or both of these wouldn't have been worth getting (on top of all the other Tristano and Konitz I've bought from this era) -- but I would definitely buy them again, if I had it to do over.

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