DMP Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Back at the turn of the century, when it was briefly a thing, Fantasy released a bunch of SACD hybrids, the usual suspects that had been reissued many times. I never thought the sound was anything special - okay, of course, but nothing like (say) the Analogue issues of some of the same material. But I recently pulled out “Gil Evans & Ten,” and it is really sounds great! (The notes say how the original stereo tapes were used for the first time.) If you haven’t heard it in awhile, worth digging out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 IIRC there a Quadrophonic release. the Gil Evans Atlantic release "Svengali". Anyone have it? (I think the only SACD release I own is Kind of Blue-- one of about 5 versions I have of it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 I have the New Jazz pressing, "Big Stuff," which is in mono. Incredible album -- Lacy really shines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Esquire LP version here - again in mono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 The reason the lp was never issued in stereo is because there were so many edits it was almost impossible to duplicate. The advent of Pro Tools made the job easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 Zeke Tolin's only recording. Another shadowy figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 The name is an anagram for guess who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 Ha! That was done so clever-Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 surreptitious-lee too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 On 1/3/2021 at 8:16 AM, DMP said: If you haven’t heard it in awhile, worth digging out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 Bob Dylan writes about this Lp in his (sort of) autobiography. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) Earlier this week I took the SACD version to a listening session with a friend whose equipment cost close to a hundred grand. The sound was stunning! Edited September 6 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 I played the disc twice this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 I just picked up a cd of Gil & Ten only a couple months ago — the very last of any of Gil’s pre-1975 leader-dates that I was missing, and a hole in my collection that I’d had for 20+ years. A very nice date, and I think I actually prefer it over both of his two ‘58-59 World Pacific albums. I’m normally hesitant about soprano (), but Lacy’s timbre here turned out to be interesting and a welcome new arrow in Gil’s quiver (new for me, at least). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasimado Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 I don't recall Zeke soloing, but I remember Lacy has a fine solo on "Ella Speed"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 On 1/5/2021 at 6:39 AM, mikeweil said: The name is an anagram for guess who? Kolin Teez? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Nelson Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 How about: The 'Svengali' Ten? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 Great album whatever format you own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhatta Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 Speaking of personnel, I'm sure that it is “Philly” Joe Jones playing drums on this album, but it appears to be “Papa” Joe Jones on Discogs and elsewhere. I wonder which one it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 The original liner notes speak about "grand old veteran Jo Jones" so if there is an error, it must have happened internally at Prestige back in the day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 jo Jones is listed as being on one cut only. Otherwise Nick Stabulas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 (edited) Via Discogs, I just looked at the back covers for all the early issues/reissues of & Ten, and “Zeke Tolin” is first outed with the 1970 reissue — but all of 6 preceding issues do maintain the pseudonym (and always in quotes). So I wonder at what point — and how?? (meaning from a contractual standpoint) — how does it become ok to correct these personnel listings officially on jackets?? Or do the rights-holders (to the recording, meaning those doing the reissue) just say f-it, enough time has passed (whatever that means), let’s just name them. I mean, it’s not like there’s a statute of limitations on this stuff, or is there?? Edited September 7 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 2 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said: Via Discogs, I just looked at the back covers for all the early issues/reissues of & Ten, and “Zeke Tolin” is first outed with the 1970 reissue — but all of 6 preceding issues do maintain the pseudonym (and always in quotes). So I wonder at what point — and how?? (meaning from a contractual standpoint) — how does it become ok to correct these personnel listings officially on jackets?? Or do the rights-holders (to the recording, meaning those doing the reissue) just say f-it, enough time has passed (whatever that means), let’s just name them. I mean, it’s not like there’s a statute of limitations on this stuff, or is there?? I would guess there's more of a fraternity/cameraderie among players (musicians, record owners, etc.) in the jazz world. They all knew each other, and most were friends. After a while, they probably didn't care, and wanted the real story to get out (so that "Zeke" could get some recognition, for example). Another example is Bennie Green's "Soul Stirrin'" on Blue Note. At the time of its release, Gene Ammons was credited only as "Jug." But by the '80's reissues, he was credited in full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 I can't imagine that any current owner of a long inactive label is going to pursue any legal action, as it would be unlikely to be worth the legal expenses, not to mention that the artists involved, who may have had exclusive recording contracts at the time of recording, are likely long dead. I didn't hear any whining about George Lane being revealed as Eric Dolphy, which was long common knowledge, when Atlantic reissued Olé Coltrane in 1988. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 Soem are really hilarious: https://jazzmf.com/jazz-musician-pseudonyms/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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