Lee Morgan - Complete Live at the Lighthouse

[danasgoodstuff]

There are a few extra tunes, and lots of takes, for Grant green at the Club Mozambique; but I'm not sure it survives - I think all they have is a mono reference tape of what was considered for release at the time.  Similar to Stan & Grant at Mintons, lots more was recorded but it has yet to be found and may never be.

[JSngry]

I'm talking about Grant at the Lighthouse.

[danasgoodstuff]

No idea if there's more GG from the Lighthouse.

[felser]

34 minutes ago, danasgoodstuff said:

No idea if there's more GG from the Lighthouse.

Ruppli BN discography doesn't show anything else unreleased from those sessions.

[JSngry]

I would not automatically take that at face value, seeing as this was a George Butler thing.

[Chuck Nessa]

49 minutes ago, JSngry said:

I would not automatically take that at face value, seeing as this was a George Butler thing.

But Ruppli did list all the stuff in the new Morgan set, excluding the Speedballs as stage exits.

 

[JSngry]

That was a Wolff production, so...different records kept, perhaps?

How deep into the Butler stuff did Rupilli get?

[Chuck Nessa]

4 minutes ago, JSngry said:

That was a Wolff production, so...different records kept, perhaps?

How deep into the Butler stuff did Rupilli get?

I believe Cuscuna provided the info and Ruppli provided the format..

Edited August 28, 2021 by Chuck Nessa

[felser]

30 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said:

I believe Cuscuna provided the info and Ruppli provided the format..

They are listed as co-authors, so that makes sense.

[JSngry]

So, yeah, I would not automatically believe that just because there's nothing else listed that nothing else was recorded. It was Belden who produced the sole American reissue of it.

Note this note:

One "complete evening's performance" eventually took up 2 CDs.

[sidewinder]

My LP set has just been dispatched, ready for delivery tomorrow. 

[clifford_thornton]

where'd you get it? I see that it's sold out from the source.

[sidewinder]

1 minute ago, clifford_thornton said:

where'd you get it? I see that it's sold out from the source.

Ordered from the UK outpost of the Bezos Empire about a week ago.

Just hope it doesn’t have that LP 3 and 4 duplication reported on Hoffman.

Edited August 30, 2021 by sidewinder

[clifford_thornton]

seems like distro is putting it out for $450-$600 which is a bit too much to plunk down, lavish as it might be.

[sidewinder]

1 minute ago, clifford_thornton said:

seems like distro is putting it out for $450-$600 which is a bit too much to plunk down, lavish as it might be.

What’s distro?

 

[Kevin Bresnahan]

3 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

where'd you get it? I see that it's sold out from the source.

Blue Note lists stuff as sold out all the time and then you'll be in a local store and see the LP on the shelf. Blue Note's web store is the first to list any LP as out of stock. One of the worst web stores I've ever used, second only to the UMusic web store, Blue Note's parent company.

I highly doubt that this will be limited in any way. If it sells, they will make more. Don't let them fool you.

[sidewinder]

I figured that it might well get a repress but current pressing plant constraints might push this well into the future. Who knows though?

Edited August 30, 2021 by sidewinder

[mjazzg]

41 minutes ago, sidewinder said:

My LP set has just been dispatched, ready for delivery tomorrow. 

That's brilliant, hope it's all up to snuff. I'll await reports from the front with anticipation.

26 minutes ago, bresna said:

Blue Note lists stuff as sold out all the time and then you'll be in a local store and see the LP on the shelf. Blue Note's web store is the first to list any LP as out of stock. One of the worst web stores I've ever used, second only to the UMusic web store, Blue Note's parent company.

I highly doubt that this will be limited in any way. If it sells, they will make more. Don't let them fool you.

I don't really see anyone being fooled just folk making considered decisions as to whether to purchase or otherwise. Some are, and I'm sure they will be rightly chuffed others aren't and I suspect they will not regret it. Everyone happy

Edited August 30, 2021 by mjazzg

[Brad]

36 minutes ago, bresna said:

Blue Note lists stuff as sold out all the time and then you'll be in a local store and see the LP on the shelf. Blue Note's web store is the first to list any LP as out of stock. One of the worst web stores I've ever used, second only to the UMusic web store, Blue Note's parent company.

I highly doubt that this will be limited in any way. If it sells, they will make more. Don't let them fool you.

Things that are listed as All Sold Out or OOS in the BN store come back in stock. As to the Lighthouse LP set, since it’s said to be limited I’d be surprised if they make additional copies beyond the amount they said they’d produce. If they do, fans might be up in arms. 

Edited August 30, 2021 by Brad

[Kevin Bresnahan]

16 minutes ago, Brad said:

Things that are listed as All Sold Out or OOS in the BN store come back in stock. As to the Lighthouse LP set, since it’s said to be limited I’d be surprised if they make additional copies beyond the amount they said they’d produce. If they do, fans might be up in arms. 

The Beatles "In Mono" CD set was released to much fanfare as being a Limited Edition. Many people, myself included, pre-ordered it at full list price. After it sold quite a bit, it was suddenly no longer a limited edition and the prices plummeted. So I paid $229 for a box that less than a year later was selling everywhere for closer to $140, with some places selling it for under $100.

The Beatles on Capitol and Blue Note fall under the Universal Music umbrella. I don't trust their "limited editions".

[trane_fanatic]

52 minutes ago, bresna said:

The Beatles "In Mono" CD set was released to much fanfare as being a Limited Edition. Many people, myself included, pre-ordered it at full list price. After it sold quite a bit, it was suddenly no longer a limited edition and the prices plummeted. So I paid $229 for a box that less than a year later was selling everywhere for closer to $140, with some places selling it for under $100.

The Beatles on Capitol and Blue Note fall under the Universal Music umbrella. I don't trust their "limited editions".

Apples and oranges. Highly doubt the Lighthouse set will be reprinted in LP form. The CD version, yes. But hey, if a repress of the vinyl shows up next week, I'll gladly eat my words. Given the current pressing plant issues with vinyl, I don't see it happening. 

Edited August 30, 2021 by trane_fanatic

[BFrank]

Don't remember if this WBGO podcast was posted already, but it's an excellent analysis and discussion about the set, and Lee at this late stage in his career.

Lee Morgan's Most Dynamic Band is Revealed in Full on a Staggering New Boxed Set

Jazz United with Greg Bryant and Nate Chenin

[sidewinder]

Well, my set has arrived in one piece and with all the correct LPs seemingly present so that is a good start. It’s an impressive looking package.

[sidewinder]

LP1 ‘The Beehive’. Great drive and presence, trounces the old 3CD easily. Bodes well. Nice to hear Mickey Roker’s drums coming across nice and crisp.

[BFrank]

11 hours ago, sidewinder said:

LP1 ‘The Beehive’. Great drive and presence, trounces the old 3CD easily. Bodes well. Nice to hear Mickey Roker’s drums coming across nice and crisp.

The last track in the set, Nommo, is as impressive as anything I've heard yet