Mingus in Mono

[mjzee]

it looks like the upcoming Japanese reissues of the Candid Mingus titles will be in mono: 

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UVJZ-20008

Google Translate: Mingus [Limited Edition] / Charles Mingus
[SOLID JAZZ GIANTS PREMIUM SALE 980 yen 1st candyd record 1st period] Charles, a rare bassist / composer who fascinated many talents from movie director John Cassavetes to singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell ・ Mingus. The long-awaited monaural master revives the big jazz picture scroll that he produced in the strongest period with the up-and-coming people such as Eric Dolphy and Paul Bley! Recording: 1961. The latest monaural remaster. Newly written Japanese commentary. Supervision and commentary: Kazunori Harada. * Manufacturer limited shipping period: December 9, 2020-end of February 2021

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UVJZ-20007

Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus +2 [Limited Edition] / Charles Mingus
[SOLID JAZZ GIANTS PREMIUM SALE 980 yen 1st candyd record 1st period] The strongest Charles Mingus left with the supreme members including Eric Dolphy. The power and passion of jazz swirls in every song, including the definitive version of "Fables of Faubus," which ridiculed discriminatory politicians. The world's first reprinted single edit 2 takes are additionally recorded. Recording: 1960. The latest monaural remaster. Newly written Japanese commentary. Supervision and commentary: Kazunori Harada. * Manufacturer limited shipping period: December 9, 2020-end of February 2021

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UVJZ-20013

Newport Rebels [Limited Edition] / Jazz Artists Guild
[SOLID JAZZ GIANTS PREMIUM SALE 980 yen 1st stage Candido record 1st stage] A work that conveys the name of "Jazz Artist Guild", a momentary project born as an objection to the Newport Jazz Festival. Charles Mingus, Booker Little, Eric Dolphy and others compete for individuality. Although Ornette Coleman and Don Cherry appear on the jacket, they did not participate in the performance. Recording: 1961. The latest monaural remaster. Newly written Japanese commentary. Supervision and commentary: Kazunori Harada. * Manufacturer limited shipping period: December 9, 2020-end of February 2021

[soulpope]

Good these will be available.... btw a slight question mark regarding the Solid Japan remastering though ....

[romualdo]

Is this whole Candid reissue series (there are a few others too) based on mono remasters?

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/release/music/jazz-fusion/month/

BTW, the Mosaic Mingus Candid set was created from the mono masters

Edited December 7, 2020 by romualdo

[jazzbo]

2 hours ago, romualdo said:

Is this whole Candid reissue series (there are a few others too) based on mono remasters?

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/release/music/jazz-fusion/month/

BTW, the Mosaic Mingus Candid set was created from the mono masters

Yes, it appears so-- "latest monaural master" is mentioned in all the descriptions.

[JSngry]

Serious question - why is this a big deal? I don't recall the stereo being so fucked up that it made me thirsty for mono?

[Dub Modal]

If you want these on CD, then these mono versions (and Mosaic's) are probably the way to go if the mastering is done right. Those old Candid CD reissues from the 90s don't sound great in stereo but they're the easiest to come by. 

[JSngry]

I have LPs and the Mosaic set. I think I'm good.

[mjzee]

2 hours ago, JSngry said:

Serious question - why is this a big deal? I don't recall the stereo being so fucked up that it made me thirsty for mono?

IIRC, in the booklet to the Mosaic Mingus Candid box, Cuscuna made a point of saying they used mono masters (on some, not all, titles) because they were far more sonically satisfying than the stereos, which had way too much left-right stereo separation.

[JSngry]

And Blue Note didn't?

[romualdo]

looks like the two extras on the "Mingus Presents" disc are previously unreleased AFAIK - they don't appear to be in the Mosaic set

not sure how accurate the Japanese translator appears

[mikeweil]

These bonus tracks are not mentioned in Lord and were not in the Mosaic. But they seem to stick to the original LPs instead of completing the sessions  - two more tracks were recorded at that session that were in the Mosaic and on a later fourh Candid CD.  

Edited December 17, 2020 by mikeweil

[king ubu]

Oh wow, gotta get this for the bonus tracks then! 

Edited December 17, 2020 by king ubu

[clifford_thornton]

"Your Mother, If Freud's Wife Became" LOL

[Steve Gray]

My copy of 'Mingus Presents Mingus' turned up this morning.

The bad news is that the two extra tracks are simply the edited versions that were issued on a Candid single. So nothing really new.

The good news for me is that the sound is better than anything else I remember hearing. (I haven't heard my Barnaby LP for over 30 years and I don't own the Mosaic set)

[jazzbo]

Good news about the sound! My copies of the Mingus material won't arrive til the end of January or the beginning of February because I added to the order several discs coming out later in January to save on shipping. 

[Steve Gray]

I have heard that the Mosaic set has excellent sound for this session but I am afraid I have not heard it.

This one sounds good to me but I cannot compare it to the Mosaic, which I am sure you own.

Perhaps when you receive your copy you could let us know how it compares.

[jazzbo]

I don't have the Mosaic set either. But my guess is these will equal or surpass that in sound quality.

[romualdo]

On 28/12/2020 at 0:00 AM, Steve Gray said:

The bad news is that the two extra tracks are simply the edited versions that were issued on a Candid single. So nothing really new.

bummer!!! 

my copy is in transit from CD japan as we speak

[soulpope]

9 hours ago, romualdo said:

my copy is in transit from CD japan as we speak

Same here .... let's exchange impressions after arrival ....

[romualdo]

19 hours ago, soulpope said:

Same here .... let's exchange impressions after arrival ....

I'll be able to compare it to my Mingus Candid Mosaic set (CD)

[soulpope]

4 minutes ago, romualdo said:

I'll be able to compare it to my Mingus Candid Mosaic set (CD)

!

[David]

All the Mingus Candid discs have arrived in my household. I've only listened to Mingus, but it sounds very good. I don't have the Mosaic, but it is a noticeable improvement on a previous Japanese release I had. Only three, not five tracks, though. 

[mjzee]

Disappointed that Dusty Groove hasn't yet carried these.  Shipping prices from Japan are currently insane.

[Late]

Huh.

[medjuck]

57 minutes ago, Late said:

Huh.

They're all included in the Mosaic Candid set  which was released on cd.