Sonny Rollins and Max Roach

[EKE BBB]

13 hours ago, HutchFan said:

jazzcorner, 

I don't think the Bee Hive LPs have ever been issued on CD.  Sound is not good.  Music is great.

 

Lonehill plus RLR cover it all, I guess. Haven't double checked 

[EKE BBB]

Just checked.

LoheHill Jazz has:

CD 1 & CD 2 Track 1 recorded live at Bee Hive, Chicago, November 7, 1955. Rollins only on the first 4 tracks.
CD 2 Tracks 2-6 recorded live at Basin Street Club, New York City, April 28, 1956. Rollins on board.
CD 2 Track 7 recorded live at Copenhagen, November 12, 1953.

 

RLR has:

Disc One and Disc Two 1-2: Recorded Live at the Bee Hive, Chicago, IL June 30, 1955

Plus a live date in New York, Feb. 1956. Rollins only on the latter, not on the former.

[Gheorghe]

That Formation Rollins-Merritt-Roach from 1966 is so important. I strongly hope it will be released as a CD. 

[EKE BBB]

Another Roach/Rollins pairing in the first session from this disc:

 

[jazzcorner]

On 30.10.2020 at 4:41 PM, HutchFan said:

Milestones, I assume that you're aware of this one:

Clifford Brown & Max Roach - Live at the Bee Hive (Columbia, 1979)

Recorded in 1955.  Rollins isn't the only tenor on these sides.  There's also Nicky Hill.

 

17 hours ago, HutchFan said:

jazzcorner, 

I don't think the Bee Hive LPs have ever been issued on CD.  Sound is not good.  Music is great.

That means the Columbia CD has nothing to do with the 2 RCA LP's?

Can you list the tracks on that CD?

Thanks

[Niko]

According to the listing here (7 November 1955)

https://www.jazzdisco.org/clifford-brown/discography/

your two Raw Genius LPs on Victor are the same as the Columbia double  LP

[EKE BBB]

1 minute ago, Niko said:

According to the listing here (7 November 1955)

https://www.jazzdisco.org/clifford-brown/discography/

your two Raw Genius LPs on Victor are the same as the Columbia double  LP

And there is no Columbia CD, to my knowledge.

[jazzcorner]

11 minutes ago, EKE BBB said:

And there is no Columbia CD, to my knowledge.

Sorry for that I did read the scan above as from a CD but you say now its a 2 LPset. thanks.

 

[Quasimado]

You might like to check out RLR 88624, CLIFFORD BROWN AT THE COTTON CLUB (Cleveland) 1956, which doesn't seem to get a mention here. It's a 3 CD set, reasonably well recorded (live, 1956) featuring the group with Sonny on tenor. It also has 3 bonus tracks from a radio broadcast from Town Casino Buffalo NY).

[erhodes]

I was wondering whether or not someone would reference the "Cotton Club" or the "Town Casino" or the "Continental Restaurant" in this thread.

February 1956, Town Casino, Buffalo, NY

1)     Introduction                                                                       :52

2)     Daahoud                                                                          6:36

3)     Announcement and interview w/ Max Roach                1:09

4)     Round Midnight                                                              8:14

5)     Announcement                                                                  :38

6)     Blues Walk                                                                      7:12

7)     Closing announcement                                                      :50

 

Early 1956, Chicago

 

1^st set

1)     Untitled Blues (incomplete)                                         14:08

 

2^nd set

2)     More Than You Know (featuring Sonny Rollins)          3:50

3)     Embraceable You (featuring Clifford Brown)               3:18

4)     I’ll Remember April (fragment)                                   14:52

5)     Wee Dot (fragment)                                                        8:44

 

3^rd Set

6)     52^nd Street Theme                                                           6:05

7)     I’ll See You In My Dreams                                             4:54

8)     These Foolish Things (featuring George Morrow)        3:17

 

1956, unknown location

 

1)     I'll Remember April 18:47

2)     What's New 3:50

3)     Daahoud 10:20

4)     Lover Man 6:32

5)     52nd Street Theme 6:18

 

April 28, 1956, New York, Basin Street

1)     Waltz Hot 7:43

2)     I Feel a Song Comin' on 5:17

 

May 16, 1956, New York, Basin Street (Willie Jones substitutes for Max Roach)

1)     What's New 3:16

2)     Daahoud 5:22

3)     Sweet Clifford 5:37

 

May 28 – June 3, 1956, Cleveland, OH, Cotton Club

 

1^st set

1)     Introduction by Clifford Brown                                      1:29

2)     Take the A Train                                                           13:39

3)     Introduction by Max Roach                                            0:39

4)     Darn That Dream (featuring Sonny Rollins)                  3:55

5)     Intermission announcement by Clifford Brown             0:35

6)     Nice Work If You Can Get It  (incomplete)                 18:51

 

2^nd set

7)     Jordu                                                                              17:26

 

3^rd set

8)     Introduction by Max Roach                                              :44

9)     Get Happy (incomplete)                                               22:21

10) Valse Hot (fragment)                                                      3:43

 

June 18, 1956, Continental Restaurant, Norfolk, VA

1^st set

1)     Introduction                                                                     1:07

2)     Just One Of Those Things                                             20:02

3)     You Go To My Head                                                       8:52

4)     Good Bait (incomplete)                                                15:23

 

2^nd set

1)     One For My Baby and One More For the Road             4:07

(featuring Richie Powell)

2)     Someone To Watch Over Me (featuring Sonny Rollins) 4:04

3)     Announcement                                                                  :51

4)     What’s New (featuring Clifford Brown)                        4:04

5)     Announcement by Max Roach                                          :38

6)     These Foolish Things (featuring George Morrow)        3:38

 

December 10, 1956, New York, Café Bohemia (Kenny Dorham replaces Clifford Brown)

1)     Valse Hot                                                                         5:50

2)     I Get A Kick Out of You                                               16:06

 

December 15, 1956, New York, Café Bohemia (Kenny Dorham replaces Clifford Brown)

1)     I Feel A Song Coming On                                             10:10

2)     Daahoud (incomplete)                                                    2:35

This is not a strict, chronological discographical listing because, for instance, the material listed from the Cotton Club did not come to me labeled as "sets".  This is just the way it was grouped and this was the simplest way to list it here.  Same thing with the "Early Chicago 1956" material.  The Continental Restaurant material, OTOH, is two legitimate sets.

 

The broader point is that all of this material, excepting the last two sets with Kenny Dorham, was issued on Philology in the "Brownie's Eyes" series and it has been subsequently re-booted on a variety of labels including RLR.

 

I compiled it for my own listening years ago and I got 5-6 cd's out of it.

 

Note that the "1956 unknown location" set is the Elektra/Pure Genius material.  I think the Philology boot was after the Elektra issue.  Also, the second of the Basin Street dates does not feature Max Roach.  Willie Jone was the substitute.  Both dates were issued on Ingo as lp's and then re-booted on cd...I believe on RLR again.

 

But to the question at the beginning of this post, there' actually quite a bit of Sonny and Max on record.

 

And don't forget Freedom Suite.