Dan Gould Posted July 17, 2020 Report Posted July 17, 2020 I just discovered that Bill Henderson did two 45s with Jimmy Smith backing in 1958 ... was this ever issued in the CD era? Not according to the Blue Note Discography project: https://www.jazzdisco.org/blue-note-records/discography-1957-1958/#581014 Is there anything else so totally ignored in the CD era? Quote
felser Posted July 17, 2020 Report Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) This one, with Mickey Tucker, Sir Roland Hanna, Richard Davis, and Eddie Gladden. It's a nice set: Edited July 17, 2020 by felser Quote
Son Of Ice Bag Posted July 17, 2020 Report Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) In 2006, all four titles were bonustracks of the classic album "Softly As A summer Breeze" In 2014, only one track "Ain't No Use" was part of Blue Note: Uncompromising Expression - The Singles Collection Edited July 17, 2020 by Son Of Ice Bag Quote
mjzee Posted July 17, 2020 Report Posted July 17, 2020 They were also available on this King Records release from 1983: https://www.discogs.com/Jimmy-Smith-The-Singles/release/5222339 Quote
mjzee Posted July 17, 2020 Report Posted July 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Son Of Ice Bag said: It is not a CD But it was issued "in the CD era." Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted July 17, 2020 Report Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, felser said: This one, with Mickey Tucker, Sir Roland Hanna, Richard Davis, and Eddie Gladden. It's a nice set: I would certainly not classify this as being from the "classic" era of Blue Note. I would think that from a historical perspective, the classic era ended ~1970, when Francis Wolff stopped producing their recording sessions. I don't think many would consider these George Butler sessions "classic". Quote
felser Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, bresna said: I would certainly not classify this as being from the "classic" era of Blue Note. I would think that from a historical perspective, the classic era ended in 1970, when Francis Wolff stopped producing their recording sessions. I don't think many would consider these George Butler sessions "classic". It's not a classic era, and I would argue that ended in 1967 when Alfred Lion exited, and didn't begin until around 1955-1956 with the advent of the LP. But it's a nice album, and BN did many good (and many more bad) and some great albums throughout the 70's. Edited July 18, 2020 by felser Quote
JSngry Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, felser said: It's not a classic era, and I would argue that ended in 1967 when Alfred Lion exited, and didn't begin until around 1955-1956 with the advent of the LP. There are those who would LOL at that statement while suggesting that the the "classic Blue Note era" had already ended by then. Quote
felser Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, JSngry said: There are those who would LOL at that statement while suggesting that the the "classic Blue Note era" had already ended by then. I"m aware of that. To each their own. I'll take Andrew Hill over Meade Lux Lewis and Wayne Shorter over Sidney Bechet. Others feel quite strongly in the opposite directions. Quote
JSngry Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 I'll take 'em all, myself. and be careful what you think about Sidney Bechet, if you're not careful, you can fail the whole exam by getting that one wrong. I thank god hourly that I didn't rush to take the test, otherwise I would have failed. And there are no makeups, this ain't no drivers license, this is LIFE!!! Quote
JSngry Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 42 minutes ago, kh1958 said: Nobody is “over” Sidney Bechet. yeah....that ain't happenin'... Quote
felser Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 17 hours ago, JSngry said: if you're not careful, you can fail the whole exam by getting that one wrong Thankfully it's more of a smorgasboard than an exam, we shovel what we like onto our plate regardless of whether it is the chef's specialty or not. And for all music, including the stuff I love the most (Harper, etc.), it's all YMMV. Quote
JSngry Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 Yeah YMMV, but sooner or later, in some form or fashion, you do pay for that mileage. A toll road is a freeway until you get to the tollbooth. And yes, there will be a test. Every day is a test really. Somebody tries to get you to bite on some piece of bullshit and/or misdirection and/or false narrative. A true discernment is the result of an ongoingly engaged refinement, revelation, and realization. Putting some dots together to see where the roads really go, both to and from. Like I said, be careful what you think about Sidney Bechet. Him and earl Hines were the only two people who could meet Louis Armstrong on wholly equal terms and stay the course. There are some pretty serious implications there. Quote
Gheorghe Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 The hardest to find for me was Paul Chamber´s "Bass on Top". It was not on RVG and not on Conoisseur and not on the other regular reissues until I finally ordered it from Japan, even there were not many reissues of it, my copy is one of those mini LP cover CDs. Quote
mikeweil Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 AFAIK the CD version of Total Eclipse was sold out quickly. Never saw a copy in a 1990's store. Still have the LP. Used copies are not exceedingly high priced, but above average. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Gheorghe said: The hardest to find for me was Paul Chamber´s "Bass on Top". It was not on RVG and not on Conoisseur and not on the other regular reissues until I finally ordered it from Japan, even there were not many reissues of it, my copy is one of those mini LP cover CDs. Maybe it is different in Austria, but here in the US, "Bass on Top" was issued several times and fairly easy to find. It was issued as a regular CD in 1987 and reissued in the short-lived "Collector's Choice" series in ~1995. It was part of the RVG series in both the US & Japan. It was also part of the Mosaic Select box if you bought that. Edited July 20, 2020 by bresna Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, mikeweil said: AFAIK the CD version of Total Eclipse was sold out quickly. Never saw a copy in a 1990's store. Still have the LP. Used copies are not exceedingly high priced, but above average. Hutcherson's "Total Eclipse" was issued on CD in the US fairly early on. Unfortunately, back then the accountants at Blue Note decided which titles got deleted and they did this using some arbitrary number of sales per year. I was told it was "less than 500 copies". Because of these deletions, it made it very hard to find these titles for many years. Most of these early deleted US Blue Note CDs were reissued in the "Collector's Choice" series. This series was Michael Cuscuna's effort to get a bunch of CDs back into print by getting the OK to do a "one shot" pressing, with no changes to the artwork or mastering of the CD (they used the original glass CD masters). They did paint the CD labels white, which is how you can identify them. When those CDs hit the shelves, you had to have your wallet ready. Whatever the number was that they pressed, that was it. I bought a bunch myself. Someone has a list of them on discogs, but I don't know if it is complete: Stanley Turrentine Joyride (CD, Album, Ltd, RE, RP) Lee Morgan The Rumproller (Album) Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers Indestructible (CD, Album, RE, RP) Kenny Dorham Una Mas (One More Time) (CD, Album, RE, RP) Bobby Hutcherson Happenings (CD, Album, RE, RP) The Three Sounds The 3 Sounds (CD, Album, RE, RP) Paul Chambers Quartet Bass On Top (CD, Album, RE, RP) Johnny Griffin Introducing Johnny Griffin (CD, Album, RE, RP) Bobby Hutcherson Dialogue (CD, Album, RE, RP) Stanley Turrentine Look Out! (CD, Album, RE, RP) Freddie Hubbard Blue Spirits (CD, Album, RE, RP) Thad Jones The Magnificent Thad Jones (CD, Album, RE, RP) Jackie McLean One Step Beyond (CD, Album, RE, RP) Hank Mobley Roll Call (CD, Album, RE, RP) Duke Jordan Flight To Jordan (CD, Album, RE, RP) Herbie Hancock The Prisoner (CD, Album, RE, RP) Ike Quebec Easy Living (CD, Album, RP) Lambert, Hendricks & Ross With Zoot Sims The Swingers! (CD, Album, Ltd, RE, RP) Gil Evans New Bottle Old Wine (CD, Album, RE, RP) The Jazz Messengers Featuring Art Blakey* Ritual (CD, Album, Ltd, RE, RP) Lou Donaldson Quartet / Quintet / Sextet (CD, Album, RE, RP) Horace Silver Quintet* 6 Pieces Of Silver (CD, Album, RE, RP) Donald Byrd Byrd In Hand (CD, Album, RE, RP) Freddie Hubbard Open Sesame (CD, Album, Ltd, RE) Art Taylor A.T.'s Delight (CD, Album, RE, RP) Kenny Drew Undercurrent (CD, Album, RE, RP) Stanley Turrentine Comin' Your Way (CD, Album, RE, RP) Freddie Hubbard Hub Cap (CD, Album, RE, RP) Herbie Hancock My Point Of View (CD, Album, RE, RP) 'Big' John Patton* Blue John (CD, Album, RE, RP) Joe Henderson Our Thing (CD, Album, RE, RP) Grachan Moncur III Evolution (CD, Album, RE, RP) Blue Mitchell The Thing To Do (CD, Album, RE, RP) Tony Williams* Life Time (CD, Album, RE, RP) Kenny Dorham Trompeta Toccata (CD, Album, RE, RP) Duke Pearson Wahoo! (CD, Album, RE, RP) Larry Young Unity (CD, Album, RE, RP) Lee Morgan Delightfulee (CD, Album, RE, RP) Art Blakey And The Jazz Messengers* Like Someone In Love (CD, Album, Ltd, RE, RP) Lou Donaldson Lush Life (CD, Album, RE, RP) Sam Rivers Dimensions & Extensions (CD, Album, RE, RP) Hank Mobley Hi Voltage (CD, Album, RE, RP) McCoy Tyner Tender Moments (CD, Album, RE, RP) The Horace Silver Quintet Featuring Stanley Turrentine Serenade To A Soul Sister (CD, Album, RE, RP) The New Elvin Jones Trio Puttin' It Together (CD, Album, RE, RP) Bobby Hutcherson Total Eclipse (CD, Album, RE, RP) McCoy Tyner Time For Tyner (CD, Album, RE, RP) Elvin Jones Poly-Currents (CD, Album, RE, RP) McCoy Tyner Expansions (CD, Album, RE, RP) Jackie McLean Demon's Dance (CD, Album, Ltd, RE, RP) Wayne Shorter Odyssey Of Iska (CD, Album, RE, RP) Hank Mobley Far Away Lands (CD, Album, RE, RP) Lee Morgan The Rajah (CD, Album, RE, RP) Jackie McLean Tippin' The Scales (CD, Album, RE, RP) Hank Mobley Another Workout (CD, Album, RE, RP) The Three Sounds Babe's Blues (CD, Album, RE, RP) Art Blakey And James Moody New Sounds (CD, Comp, Ltd, RP) Paul Chambers (3) Chambers' Music (CD, Album, Ltd, RE, RP) Bobby Hutcherson Oblique (CD, Album, RE, RP) Gerald Wilson Orchestra Portraits (CD, Album, Ltd, RE, RP) Bill Perkins & Richie Kamuca Tenors Head-On (CD, Album, Mono, Ltd, RE, RP) Quote
Pim Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gheorghe said: The hardest to find for me was Paul Chamber´s "Bass on Top". It was not on RVG and not on Conoisseur and not on the other regular reissues until I finally ordered it from Japan, even there were not many reissues of it, my copy is one of those mini LP cover CDs. Really? Discogs mentions 19 reissues on cd? Edited July 20, 2020 by Pim Quote
Brad Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 I found that prior to the RVG program, the hardest was Hank’s Straight No Filter. It was going as high as $100 on eBay. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Brad said: I found that prior to the RVG program, the hardest was Hank’s Straight No Filter. It was going as high as $100 on eBay. I sold one for $350 and the one before that sold for almost $500. The hardest one for me to find was Jimmy Smith's "Cool Blues". Quote
Brad Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 46 minutes ago, bresna said: I sold one for $350 and the one before that sold for almost $500. The hardest one for me to find was Jimmy Smith's "Cool Blues". I confess I purchased an expensive copy of SNF but nothing like that. Quote
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