sidewinder Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillF said: We have 28,000 deaths with a population one fifth of yours, so we're in a mess! A better comparison is probably Belgium and not the US - similarly overcrowded country. Belgium’s per capita rate is even higher than ours. Not helped of course by all the idiots going to the pubs, soccer, Cheltenham Races etc. back in early March and ignoring all advice, before these places were locked down. Edited May 3, 2020 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, BillF said: We have 28,000 deaths with a population one fifth of yours, so we're in a mess! When it comes to day-dreaming and duffery we are world leaders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Fuddle whilst Rome burns. But what's it matter to stay everyone's best mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coda Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 If you're getting a check (I am) then it could take as long as the end of August before you receive it. They're starting with the lowest income earners first sending checks (and a letter I'm told) in batches. I found a new covid tracker that's awesome to view: https://community.powerbi.com/t5/COVID-19-Data-Stories-Gallery/COVID-Dashboard/td-p/998788 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, sidewinder said: A better comparison is probably Belgium and not the US - similarly overcrowded country. Belgium’s per capita rate is even higher than ours. Not helped of course by all the idiots going to the pubs, soccer, Cheltenham Races etc. back in early March and ignoring all advice, before these places were locked down. The politics ban prevents me from replying to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillF said: The politics ban prevents me from replying to this. Absolutely nothing to do with politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, sidewinder said: Absolutely nothing to do with politics. 😄 Edited May 3, 2020 by mjazzg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 hours ago, David Ayers said: When it comes to day-dreaming and duffery we are world leaders! What a great phrase! Never heard "duffery" before, but I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aparxa Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 hours ago, sidewinder said: Belgium’s per capita rate is even higher than ours. Belgium takes into account the victims of COVID19 in nursing homes, care homes and assisted living facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 These Are the Bedside Concerts Comforting Virus Patients Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted May 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 U.S. reports deadliest day yet for coronavirus patients as states begin to reopen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, ghost of miles said: U.S. reports deadliest day yet for coronavirus patients as states begin to reopen Since I believe the gestation period is around 14 days, these deaths occurred while most of the nation was sheltering in place. With restrictions being eased, cases may increase. After holding steady for a few days in the 50-80 range, new cases in our county yesterday increased to slightly over 100. Better than it was previously but not optimal. Edited May 3, 2020 by Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted May 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) More indications that the “widely-cited” IHME model, which on April 29 projected 72,000 U.S. deaths by August 4 (as of this moment we’re at 68,126) is all but irrelevant: U.S. could hit 100,000 deaths before end of May Edited May 3, 2020 by ghost of miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 IMHE #s seem to be a little more nuanced than just one flat figure:http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updates Location Predictions for cumulative COVID-19 deaths through the first wave from our April 29 release (today) Predictions from our April 27 release Change of average values since the April 27 release* United States 72,433 (59,343 to 114,228) 74,073 (56,563 to 130,666) ↓ 1,640 deaths Still, the range seems pretty low at this time (and seem to be off more in the revising!!!). We'll see. IMHE seems to be something sponsored by Bill Gates: http://www.healthdata.org/about/history I've no set opinion about Bill Gates, other than thinking that he's an uberbazookleaire who seems to think he can now do good for the world with his money. The operative word there is "can". Hey...potential vs kinetic. And, the IMHE's modelling technique is not universally praised by those in the epidemiology community, seems to be some serious questions about the assumptions used to build it: https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/17/influential-covid-19-model-uses-flawed-methods-shouldnt-guide-policies-critics-say/ This should, I think, be the appropriate attitude towards any of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_models_are_wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam_44 Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 I find it Interesting that a lot of the people who want reopen and get back to “normal” are in the hospitality industry. I do wonder how may people are interested in renting the cabin by the lake with the potential economic downturn. I know we have planned to alter our vacationing this summer due to everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 The confirmed case #'s are gonna skyrocket if/when we get serious about universal testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted May 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) With this kind of idiocy afoot, I have little doubt that cases will continue to skyrocket. Via the New York Times: Wearing masks has become a flashpoint in the virus culture wars Edited May 4, 2020 by ghost of miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, ghost of miles said: This is how stupid things have gotten. Wearing masks has become a flashpoint in the virus culture wars Only in America. If I’m in a public place, I wear a mask and gloves as well, if I may touch something. However, if I’m out walking or in a place where I may not encounter people I don’t wear one but have one at the ready b Edited May 4, 2020 by Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Duckworth Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 Last night the president refered more than once to "teachers of a certain age" not returning to the classroom in the same capacity. I'm interested in this conceit as I am a teacher of a certain age-63. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Jim Duckworth said: Last night the president refered more than once to "teachers of a certain age" not returning to the classroom in the same capacity. I'm interested in this conceit as I am a teacher of a certain age-63. Meaning what, do you think? I wonder if in my own country we are about to create a class of citizens based on age and 'underlying conditions' (i.e. if you die, too bad, you were ill anyway). I worry that we will be marginalised at or excluded from work (for me its condition not age). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 57 minutes ago, David Ayers said: Meaning what, do you think? I wonder if in my own country we are about to create a class of citizens based on age and 'underlying conditions' (i.e. if you die, too bad, you were ill anyway). I worry that we will be marginalised at or excluded from work (for me its condition not age). I rather suspect that many people with disabilities and chronic health conditions feel that class exists already, as will those that have experienced age discrimination. As with many things, this pandemic is shedding light on these existing disparities and exacerbating them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Duckworth Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, David Ayers said: Meaning what, do you think? I can't imagine that this means anything positive for me: high official with the district in which I work once said that the biggest problem our schools face is veteran teachers. And for my part, I have not been Mr. Cooperation at work-I don't have any problems with my co-workers or students-I just hate everything that gets handed down to me from on high like testing or the curriculum I am now expected to follow "with fidelity." I will probably have to fall back on a career that utlizes my arcane knowledge of jazz and my proclivity to criticize my superiors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jim Duckworth said: I can't imagine that this means anything positive for me: high official with the district in which I work once said that the biggest problem our schools face is veteran teachers. And for my part, I have not been Mr. Cooperation at work-I don't have any problems with my co-workers or students-I just hate everything that gets handed down to me from on high like testing or the curriculum I am now expected to follow "with fidelity." I will probably have to fall back on a career that utlizes my arcane knowledge of jazz and my proclivity to criticize my superiors. Expect to see a ramping up in age discrimination suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 I smell Death Panels!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted May 4, 2020 Report Share Posted May 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, Jim Duckworth said: I will probably have to fall back on a career that utlizes my arcane knowledge of jazz and my proclivity to criticize my superiors. Let me know what that is when you figure it out. Whatever that job/career is, that's what I want to be when I grow up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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