Dan Gould Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Pim said: Hope all will be fine with your folks Dan! Thanks. I can report now that my sister-in-law is on my shit list. And her sister isn't exactly happy either even if she won't use that terminology. Bob said to Patty that his temperature was 100.7. She heard "107" and remarkably, did not exclaim "A hundred and seven????!!!!" which would have cut this "crisis" off right at the start when Bob would have said "NO, One hundred POINT seven." Then my wife wouldn't have spent Friday feeling terrified about her brother's condition. Unbelievable. He's got a minor cold for all we know. I guess we'll have confirmation when he feels better, hopefully, in a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Okay, so what's this about there being a new strain of the virus in the UK that is significantly more contagious or spreads faster or whatever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, JSngry said: Okay, so what's this about there being a new strain of the virus in the UK that is significantly more contagious or spreads faster or whatever? New mutant strain detected by the genome sequencers, approx. 70% more transmissible than the original. Running rampant in London and the SE, new Tier 4 lockdown controls in those areas from tonight. No travel in and out of Tier 4. Xmas festivities cancelled.. Big tightening of controls in Scotland and Wales from tonight too. Happy to still be in Tier 2, for how much longer - who knows. Edited December 19, 2020 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Wow....asking for an informed scientific opinion now - is the new strain possibly going to be resistant to the new vaccine(s), or is that not how it works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bivins Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 Not an informed scientist, but the several articles I've scanned suggest that as of now there's no evidence that it's more deadly or vaccine resistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) General consensus appears to be that it's too early to tell. It's only been confirmed for about a week at most, if government sources are to be believed. There's a strong message that there's nothing indicating yet that the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine, that's currently being rolled out, is compromised but it's hard to tell how much of that is wishful thinking rather than research. I heard one expert interviewed saying that these variations can actually lessen the threat as the deadliness reduces in some instances. Seems to be accepted that it spreads a lot quicker. Media interview with ICU doctor earlier today said that patients don't seem to be presenting with any discernible difference in symptoms but that they are arriving in far greater numbers, hence our new restrictions introduced today. Edited December 20, 2020 by mjazzg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) The Magnificent Goldberg...has anyone heard from him lately? he hasn't visited the forum in 10 months. Also A Lark Ascending aka Bev Stapleton. Both are based in the UK. Edited December 20, 2020 by Dmitry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 Bev left the board when he retired, apparently wanting pursue other interests. Last I heard a couple of years ago he was doing fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 I remember the transfer over to this board being quite sudden, with a ‘roll call muster’ once things had stabilised. 21 minutes ago, Daniel A said: Bev left the board when he retired, apparently wanting pursue other interests. Last I heard a couple of years ago he was doing fine. Someone (mjazzg?) mentioned conversing with Bev S. within the last couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 I heard from MG just this past week. He's doing ok, although apparently his location makes getting supplies a challenge. But thankfully he and his are alive, well, and hunkering down for the duration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, JSngry said: although apparently his location makes getting supplies a challenge. Wasn’t it S. Wales? Hardly Outer Mongolia - although I guess they have been locked down of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Wales, a town, but a bit of a small one. That's all I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Good to hear MG is doing well under the circumstances. I was thinking of him only yesterday when reading here about the forum as such an excellent resource for jazz knowledge. MG contributed a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Dmitry said: The Magnificent Goldberg...has anyone heard from him lately? he hasn't visited the forum in 10 months. Also A Lark Ascending aka Bev Stapleton. Both are based in the UK. Bev (A Lark Ascending) is well and in good humour. At least he was last week. Glad to hear Magnificent G is OK, I miss his contributions. Whilst we're talking about 'missing' board members, what of Teasing The Korean? Or did I miss something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 hours ago, mjazzg said: Whilst we're talking about 'missing' board members, what of Teasing The Korean? Or did I miss something I'm certain I saw a post from someone who said he is fine, very busy right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 28 minutes ago, Dan Gould said: I'm certain I saw a post from someone who said he is fine, very busy right now. That's good to hear, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 The spread of COVID-19 is based on two things: 1. How dense the population is. 2. How dense the population is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 and how contagious the variant is. This new one ("lineage" is a term i heard this morning for the first time) is either 70% more contagious or spreads 70% more quickly. Either way, it's a virus. Shit may or may not be expected to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Dave James said: The spread of COVID-19 is based on two things: 1. How dense the population is. 2. How dense the population is. This isn't true except in a fairly limited sense. Plenty of rural areas are being really hard hit in the US right now. Density of real-life social/economic networks probably matters more than physical density. Edited December 22, 2020 by Guy Berger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, JSngry said: and how contagious the variant is. This new one ("lineage" is a term i heard this morning for the first time) is either 70% more contagious or spreads 70% more quickly. Either way, it's a virus. Shit may or may not be expected to happen. Certainly seems to spreading fast enough to be causing major concern countrywide now, not just in the SE as it was only on saturday. Currently still no evidence that people are getting any more ill with it. Some early suggestions that children may be getting it more than adults. Edited December 21, 2020 by mjazzg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) I reckon it’s already all over Europe - and probably has been for a while. A bit of an aside. I was down on the South Coast yesterday, watching out on a pier in what is normally a large and empty bay. Three mega cruise ships were anchored out there together in the murk, looking like beached whales. An unprecedented sight for that stretch of the English Channel. Edited December 21, 2020 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 8 hours ago, sidewinder said: I reckon it’s already all over Europe - and probably has been for a while. A bit of an aside. I was down on the South Coast yesterday, watching out on a pier in what is normally a large and empty bay. Three mega cruise ships were anchored out there together in the murk, looking like beached whales. An unprecedented sight for that stretch of the English Channel. Yes, some strange sights these days. Yesterday on a Manchester motorway (on my way to my Covid jab) a sign saying ROUTES TO FRANCE CLOSED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 19 hours ago, JSngry said: and how contagious the variant is. This new one ("lineage" is a term i heard this morning for the first time) is either 70% more contagious or spreads 70% more quickly. Either way, it's a virus. Shit may or may not be expected to happen. One thing we're relatively lucky on with a coronavirus pandemic (vs. an influenza pandemic) is that it tends to mutate more slowly. Most experts aren't terribly worried about the vaccine's effectiveness against this new lineage, for instance. 19 hours ago, mjazzg said: Certainly seems to spreading fast enough to be causing major concern countrywide now, not just in the SE as it was only on saturday. Currently still no evidence that people are getting any more ill with it. Some early suggestions that children may be getting it more than adults. The worry about extra contagiousness is that even if the virus isn't inherently more deadly, there could be significant 2nd order impacts on mortality from deterioration of the health care system. 18 hours ago, sidewinder said: I reckon it’s already all over Europe - and probably has been for a while. Yup. Travel restrictions can be pretty effective at limiting pandemics, but only when you do them well ahead of time. The horse left the barn a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 7:27 AM, mjazzg said: Bev (A Lark Ascending) is well and in good humour. At least he was last week. Received today the latest issue of BBC Music Magazine, and the cover story is on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 7:52 AM, Dan Gould said: Thanks. I can report now that my sister-in-law is on my shit list. And her sister isn't exactly happy either even if she won't use that terminology. Bob said to Patty that his temperature was 100.7. She heard "107" and remarkably, did not exclaim "A hundred and seven????!!!!" which would have cut this "crisis" off right at the start when Bob would have said "NO, One hundred POINT seven." Then my wife wouldn't have spent Friday feeling terrified about her brother's condition. Unbelievable. He's got a minor cold for all we know. I guess we'll have confirmation when he feels better, hopefully, in a few days. And now I can report that my brother got a positive result from a second Covid test. He remains with rather moderate symptoms; Mother-in-Law shows no effects thus far from her close contact last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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