Rooster_Ties Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 Just seeing that Neil Peart, the drummer for Rush (and main lyricist), has died at 67. https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806 Surely one of the 10 best "Rock" drummers of all time. I'm sorry to say I never saw Rush live in concert, but I've been a growing fan over the last 20 years. A masterful drummer, in his idiom, and from the one Rush documentary I saw late one night on cable several years ago, seemingly a quiet and thoughtful guy. RIP. Quote
HutchFan Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 Ugh. That's terrible news. I had no idea that he was even sick. I've enjoyed Rush's music since back in my high school days. Lots of good memories. I'm grateful for the music. R.I.P. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Posted January 10, 2020 I had no idea either. Apparently a 3.5 year battle with cancer, not publicly known it seems. Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 RIP Neil. He was a great drummer. He also wrote great lyrics. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 He was an incredible drummer. It always amazed me that it was only one drummer on some of those Rush songs. I used to think they were overdubbing. Quote
catesta Posted January 10, 2020 Report Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) Fuck me, what sad news this is. This guy was an absolute monster drummer and a great lyricist. He was a different type of dude, a somewhat shy, quiet, keep to yourself type. The fact the fans had no idea goes to show you just that. I suppose the retirement all makes sense now. I don't believe in destiny Or the guiding hand of fate I don't believe in forever Or love as a mystical state I don't believe in the stars or the planets Or angels watching from above But I believe there's a ghost of a chance We can find someone to love And make it last.... I consider myself lucky have seen the band live twice in their prime and regret not going to see them on the final tour, especially now. RIP Neil, thanks for doing it. Cue the music.... Living on a lighted stage Approaches the unreal For those who think and feel In touch with some reality Beyond the gilded cage Cast in this unlikely role Well equipped to act With insufficient tact One must put up barriers To keep oneself intact Living in the limelight The universal dream For those who wish to seem Those who wish to be Must put aside the alienation Get on with the fascination The real relation The underlying theme Living in a fisheye lens Caught in the camera eye I have no heart to lie I can't pretend a stranger Is a long awaited friend All the world's indeed a stage And we are merely players Performers and portrayers Each another's audience Outside the gilded cage Living in the limelight The universal dream For those who wish to seem Those who… Edited January 10, 2020 by catesta Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted January 11, 2020 Report Posted January 11, 2020 RIP, I AM SO SORRY Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted January 11, 2020 Report Posted January 11, 2020 IM GOING TO JUST COME OUT AND SAY IT, HES RIGHT UP THERE WITH PHILLY & ART, RIP NEIL PEART 1952-2020 Quote
Soulstation1 Posted January 11, 2020 Report Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) Rest Easy Edited January 11, 2020 by Soulstation1 Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted January 11, 2020 Author Report Posted January 11, 2020 Saw this on the Hoffman forums, and it's so true! (from Bob Mould/Superchunk drummer Jon Wurster) Quote
CJ Shearn Posted January 11, 2020 Report Posted January 11, 2020 RIP Neil. I saw this on Antonio Sanchez' FB. Antonio, who came from rock, Neil and Bonham, are just as much influences for him as Max Roach, Jack DeJohnette and Roy Haynes. I was thinking of Neil the other day, so strange. Such a creative, melodic player Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 11, 2020 Report Posted January 11, 2020 9 hours ago, Soulstation1 said: Rest Easy You watch a video like this and it's much easier to understand why Peart retired after this tour. I can't imagine trying to keep playing at such a frenetic pace as a 20-something, much less a 60-something. It's also easy to see why Rush isn't going to be one of those ghost bands that keep playing until every member is dead. Rush isn't Rush without Peart. I was glad when I read that they agreed with this. Quote
ghost of miles Posted January 11, 2020 Report Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) I and several other junior-high friends were quite the Rush-heads circa 1979-81 and went to see Rush on the Moving Pictures tour when they came through Indianapolis. Oddly enough, pre-Internet and social media, we heard constant rumors back then that Peart was ill with cancer, which of course proved not to be the case... he lived nearly another 40 years. Glad to see him getting so much respect from Sanchez and others. Edited January 11, 2020 by ghost of miles Quote
Jason Bivins Posted January 11, 2020 Report Posted January 11, 2020 Very sad news, indeed. Amazing musician. RIP, sir. Quote
catesta Posted January 13, 2020 Report Posted January 13, 2020 SiriusXM channel 27 (Deep Tracks) is temporarily a Rush tribute channel until 1/15/20. They're also doing a 2 hour special with David Fricke tonight at 9pm ET. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 14, 2020 Report Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, catesta said: SiriusXM channel 27 (Deep Tracks) is temporarily a Rush tribute channel until 1/15/20. They're also doing a 2 hour special with David Fricke tonight at 9pm ET. I've been listening to this for the last 2 days and it's caused to me realize three things about Rush: 1) I find myself listening to Peart's drums on most songs. Geddy Lee's vocals are almost a distraction 2) They made some pretty terrible and/or odd songs, which is why I don't own much of it. 3) Peart's drumming makes me wonder if this is what Monk would have sounded like if he played the drums. His keeps the time fine, but the wild, sometimes seemingly random accent beats are what really makes him sound so incredible. After listening to this for a long while, I decided I wanted to hear "Moving Pictures". I know - gak and all that - but it's my favorite Rush record. Goofy shit lyrically, but as I said, listening to Peart is where it's at. "Red Barchetta" is my favorite Rush tune. He's also a little like Blakey with the drum roll transitions at odd spots. Just a fun drummer to listen to. I still think they overdubbed some of them or else Peart had 3 arms. Edited January 14, 2020 by bresna Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted January 14, 2020 Author Report Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) I only have a good smattering of Rush on CD -- all 3 vols of the Retrospective comps, plus 3 of their 80's studio albums, and one live album (late 80's). Really some amazing music, imho. I'm not as much of a fan of their 70's output (Geddy's voice is a bit more abrasive, but I think it mellowed considerably by the 80's, and beyond) -- but really almost any random Rush from 1980 or after is generally a pretty positive thing in my book. I'm a 'music' person, first and foremost, so generally lyrics are almost always very secondary in my book. But I would honestly count Rush's lyrics as being "above average", at least in terms of being interesting and something out of the ordinary. I wouldn't quite count them among my personal "top 20" rock/pop/alternative acts -- but I could easily see 'binging' on Rush someday (probably via Pandora), and the quality of the more recent half of their catalog could easily put them up in my top-20 (at some point). I'm the same way with Yes probably as well, a band of similar musicianship -- and frankly, I think Rush's lyrics are better than those of Yes. There's an energy to most of Rush's music that I find very positive. Most of it has a LOT of strong, forward momentum - largely due to Peart's really extraordinary musicianship. There's a LOT going on, but I don't think he chronically "overplays" most of the time (sometimes, maybe? - but it never seems so busy that I'm like "why?"). And in terms of rock bands that were TRIOS -- Rush would have to be top-5 in my book, beyond any shadow of a doubt, maybe top-3 (Hendrix and The Police being the other two obvious candidates -- I'm not a big Cream fan, I'm afraid). Interesting that as quiet and unassuming Peart was in real life (and interviews) -- in many ways I think Rush was the rare rock trio where both the bass-player and drummer outshined the guitarist? -- the only other arguable example perhaps being The Police (though I've always felt like they were very much a band of 3 very strong equals). I think I'll set up a Pandora Rush station (something I'm surprised I've never done), put it on "deeper cuts" mode, and let that serve me up a bunch of Rush I've probably never heard. I'll bet within 2 years, I'll have expanded my meager Rush CD collection 2 or 3 fold. Really quite a band. Cerebral, and not all about testosterone and machismo -- or certainly a DIFFERENT kind of testosterone. Wish I'd seen them live, but I never got around to it. RIP. Edited January 14, 2020 by Rooster_Ties Quote
catesta Posted January 14, 2020 Report Posted January 14, 2020 Moving Pictures in an excellent album, all of it. if you've not watched it, there is "classic albums" documentary about how 2112 and Moving Pictures are the two defining albums. I found it very interesting, especially the input from Terry Brown. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 14, 2020 Report Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, catesta said: Moving Pictures in an excellent album, all of it. if you've not watched it, there is "classic albums" documentary about how 2112 and Moving Pictures are the two defining albums. I found it very interesting, especially the input from Terry Brown. I really like "Moving Pictures" but it gets so much flak from the rock cognoscenti that I almost feel embarrassed to say this. Tough. I like it and I play it for me. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 14, 2020 Report Posted January 14, 2020 Great interview with Peart. Quote
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