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[duaneiac]

Here's Jimmy Lyons' voice:

 

[JSngry]

The Ellis intro sounds like the same guy on the Brubeck, just a little more "on".

[JSngry]

Ok, here's a few things...

https://books.google.com/books?id=gvFyunCAQbMC&pg=PT497&lpg=PT497&dq=discapades+1950+knbc&source=bl&ots=dVOomyQTjW&sig=ACfU3U0uXdCJ9cQUBLyFdE9_NEMpTklB_g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjkp6GZmN7mAhUFV80KHYO2DFUQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=discapades%201950%20knbc&f=false

says that Lyons had a TV show on KRON. No dates are given, but check this out: https://www.montereyherald.com/2009/03/31/jazzfest-founder-was-backstage-star/

The Vallejo-born and raised son of German immigrant parents met Lyons while he was employed at KRON-TV in San Francisco. Television had just come to the West Coast in 1950, the year Vieregge completed his college education at College of the Pacific in Stockton.

Lyons, a DJ at KNBC, had added television to his repertoire with a program that introduced jazz musicians through live performance and interviews. Vieregge had moved to KGO after a year at KRON and worked nights handling stage design, lighting and management for the locally produced shows.

Then this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_stations_in_the_San_Francisco_Bay_Area#KRON-TV

The city's third station was KRON (Channel 4), which began broadcasting on November 15, 1949, with studios in the basement of the San Francisco Chronicle (hence the name KRON[icle]), which owned and operated the station, and a transmitter on San Bruno Mountain.

So, January 2, 1950 might have been some "new year's special" live broadcast, which might be what Lyons means when he refers to "this auspicious tete-a-tete".

That's a helluva lot of "might"s, though...

From the radio angle, here's a station guide date January 3, 1950 (from The Californian, out of Salinas: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/31549922/radio_program_listings_03_jan_1950/

You can see that Discapades comes on KNBC at midnight, or at least it did that night.

KRON was owned by the SF Chronicle, but it, like KNBC was an NBC affiliate. KNBC, though, was owned directly by NBC.

So...there's a lot of "could be"s here, but nothing definite.

 

 

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

FACINATING JSNGRY- FACINATING!

THIS IS HOW THE LISTING IS CURRENTLY GOING TO BE:
 

Dave Brubek Trio + voc
1950-01-02
KNBC 680 AM "Discapades"- 12 A.M.
(Jimmy Lyons- ann)
*poss KRON ch. 4 TV

Dave Brubeck- p
Ron Crotty-p
Callen Tjader- d
Barbara Ritchie- voc

1. Shine On Harvest Moon (trio)
2. September Song (+ voc)

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

JSNGRY you set up a good treasure map:  next step: we must find out if there was a NYE TV b'cast on KRON...............

[mikeweil]

I listened to the tracks on headphones and cannot hear a bass on "Moon" and neither bass nor drums on the vocal track. Sounds like it was recorded on a machine with automatic recording level adjustment.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

On 12/31/2019 at 0:04 PM, mikeweil said:

I listened to the tracks on headphones and cannot hear a bass on "Moon" and neither bass nor drums on the vocal track. Sounds like it was recorded on a machine with automatic recording level adjustment.

i have an answer for you dawg--- blame it on the transfer    doing a 70th anniversary spin right now, esp at the start of the disc can 100% hear ron crotty on it- 100%

hey, i just heard something.......

 

 

"OUR barbara ritichie"   "OUR barbara ritchie"

 

ill leave the TV thing up (cause of the appllause.........) but thats another tick for RADIO, not TV, is it not: "O-U-R Barbara Ritchie"..............

but if the tv was as we know nbc affil. than our barbara richie could be either 

[JSngry]

If it was TV, then the station would have been broadcasting for less than a year. You gotta expect that there would be a lot of crossover between radio and TV personalities for stations with the same network affiliation.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

a point in favor of TV!

[bichos]

i think it Comes from a Radio Show called "lyon´s busy" with Jimmy Lyons. i found one from 12.12.1949 with the Dave Brubeck trio playing various rhthms with "crazy rhythm", "fascinating rhythm" (vocal by Barbara ritchie again), after the Commercial a Little bit of "Lover" and than variations of "how high the moon". unfortunately only part 1 here:

https://www.otrr.org/OTRRLibrary/otrrlibrary.html?idp=12802

 

Keep boppin´

marcel

 

    

[clifford_thornton]

missed this fascinating thread the first time around. Good work, all.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

1 hour ago, bichos said:

i think it Comes from a Radio Show called "lyon´s busy" with Jimmy Lyons. i found one from 12.12.1949 with the Dave Brubeck trio playing various rhthms with "crazy rhythm", "fascinating rhythm" (vocal by Barbara ritchie again), after the Commercial a Little bit of "Lover" and than variations of "how high the moon". unfortunately only part 1 here:

https://www.otrr.org/OTRRLibrary/otrrlibrary.html?idp=12802

 

Keep boppin´

marcel

 

    

you found an acetate?  in america?  wow OH NO radio show ?  i didnt know about this one, wowow thanks

Edited March 22, 2022 by chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez

[Stonewall15]

On ‎12‎/‎30‎/‎2019 at 7:56 PM, chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez said:

FACINATING JSNGRY- FACINATING!

THIS IS HOW THE LISTING IS CURRENTLY GOING TO BE:
 

Dave Brubek Trio + voc
1950-01-02
KNBC 680 AM "Discapades"- 12 A.M.
(Jimmy Lyons- ann)
*poss KRON ch. 4 TV

Dave Brubeck- p
Ron Crotty-p
Callen Tjader- d
Barbara Ritchie- voc

1. Shine On Harvest Moon (trio)
2. September Song (+ voc)

Is this radio show available on you-tube or anywhere else? I would like to hear it.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

23 minutes ago, Stonewall15 said:

Is this radio show available on you-tube or anywhere else? I would like to hear it.

absouetely,

 

[Stonewall15]

Many thanx. Are there any other Lyon's Busy or Discapades with Brubeck available?

Edited March 23, 2022 by Stonewall15
correction

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

well that guy posted that one thats even earlier i was suprised by and it seems like a maybe since theres two weeks of stuff on disc but the real answer is 'to be determined' i guess