ghost of miles Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 Disgruntled baby and National League MVP Cody Bellinger rips Astros' "weak" apology, Manfred's light punishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 https://sports.yahoo.com/cody-bellinger-astros-stole-a-ring-from-dodgers-and-an-mvp-from-aaron-judge-174528694.html Bellinger: "I thought Manfred's punishment was weak, giving them immunity. I mean these guys were cheating for three years. I think what people don't realize is Altuve stole an MVP from Judge in '17. Everyone knows they stole the ring from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dan Gould said: This is the only worthwhile rule change in years. Fewer pitching changes, and presumably fewer lefty/lefty matchups. Less specialization, more generalized skill. Me likey. They're also letting teams carry 26 players this year, as opposed to the previous 25. And haven't they eliminated expanded September rosters? A friend of mine who's a Milwaukee fan says that this and the 3-batter rule will do in the Brewers. Edited February 14, 2020 by ghost of miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 "The really good ones make the law/rules, or get them made on their behalf. "Influence", I believe its called?" Now we're talking about the government or about corporations so large and powerful that they virtually dominate the market place. No single sports team is equivalent to the government, nor is any single sports team in a position so dominant in the marketplace that it can get the rules changed on its behalf. If we're talking about all of MLB -- OK, it makes the rules to benefit itself, but that doesn't necessarily benefit the Astros or any other team that cheats, though I'll grant that MLB probably would like to deal with as little trouble as possible and will proceed accordingly in an attempt to neaten things up. "Murder is for suckers. Money is for pros." And taking in more money for blowing the whistle ex post facto is for real pros. It happens often enough. Another big problem with buying silence would be the recipients' income tax returns. The IRS would like to know where this year's extra two million dollars came from. You say you didn't list it as income? Right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: Now we're talking about the government or about corporations so large and powerful that they virtually dominate the market place.... Another big problem with buying silence would be the recipients' income tax returns. The IRS would like to know where this year's extra two million dollars came from. You say you didn't list it as income? Right. No, we're not. And tax returns? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 Yes, tax returns seriously. Get a big boost in income that you can't account for and\or don't even report and see what happens to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 You know a helluva lot more honest people than I do, that's all I can say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 It's not a matter of honesty but of the IRS. No, they don't catch everyone who cheats, but when they do... Further, in a situation like that of the Astros, payments for silence would be like honey to ants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 Offshore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 From the IRS website: Taxpayers should remain wary of offshore avoidance schemes. Following the IRS intensifying efforts on offshore issues in recent years, many taxpayers have already voluntarily disclosed their participation in these schemes. The IRS conducted thousands of offshore-related civil audits that resulted in the payment of tens of millions of dollars in unpaid taxes. The IRS has also pursued criminal charges leading to billions of dollars in criminal fines and restitution. “Offshore evasion remains a primary focal point of overall IRS enforcement efforts,” said IRS Commissioner Chuck Rettig. “Our Criminal Investigation and civil enforcement teams work closely with the Justice Department in the international arena to ensure our nation’s tax laws are followed. Taxpayers considering hiding funds or assets offshore should think twice; the civil penalties and criminal sanctions can be severe.” In other words, you pays your money (or rather, you don't pays your money) and you takes your choice. Also I said above, a well-publicized situation like that of Astros and possible/likely payments for silence would be like honey to ants for the IRS, especially when it's fueled by your old friend 'dubious moral outrage." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 March 21, 2014 – Victor Lipukhin, formerly a resident of St. Charles, Illinois, was indicted for attempting to interfere with the administration of the Internal Revenue laws and filing false tax returns. Mr. Lipukhin, a Russian citizen and former lawful permanent U.S. resident, kept between approximately $4,000,000 and $7,500,000 in assets in two bank accounts with UBS from at least 2002 through 2007. March 18, 2014 — California attorney Christopher M. Rusch was sentenced to 10 months in prison for helping his clients Stephen M. Kerr and Michael Quiel hide millions of dollars in secret offshore bank accounts. Mr. Rusch pleaded guilty on Feb. 6, 2013, to conspiracy to defraud the government and failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR). February 26, 2014 — Christopher B. Berg, of Portola Valley, California, was sentenced to one year and one day in prison. Prior to sentencing, Mr. Berg paid more than $250,000 in restitution to the IRS, as well as a penalty of $287,896 for failure to properly report his foreign account. January 14, 2014 — H. Ty Warner (the creator of Beanie Babies plush toys) of Chicago, Illinois, was sentenced to two years’ probation for tax evasion. Mr. Warner has paid more than $53 million in a civil penalty, as well as approximately $27 million in back taxes and interest. October 24, 2013 — Dr. Patricia Lynn Hough, of Englewood, Florida, was convicted of conspiring to defraud the IRS and filing false tax returns. Dr. Hough and David Leon Fredrick were indicted in May 2013 for concealing millions of dollars in assets and income in offshore bank accounts at UBS and other foreign banks. October 3, 2013 – H. Ty Warner (the creator of Beanie Babies plush toys) pleaded guilty in Chicago, IL, to failing to pay taxes on money he hid from the U.S. in a Swiss bank account. He admitted to failing to report $3.2 million in income on a secret UBS AG account that held as much as $93.6 million. Warner agreed to pay a civil penalty of almost $53.6 million and also faces a fine of as much as $250,000. Tax evasion is punishable by as long as five years in prison. September 24, 2013 — Stephen M. Kerr and Michael Quiel were each sentenced to 10 months in prison. Stephen M. Kerr and Michael Quiel were convicted of failing to disclose secret offshore bank accounts in Switzerland. Mr. Kerr and Mr. Quiel, prominent Phoenix businessmen, were each convicted of two counts of filing false individual income tax returns for 2007 and 2008. Kerr was also convicted of two counts of failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR). July 16, 2013 — Peter Troost, of Skokie, Illinois, was sentenced to 12 months and a day in prison for evading taxes on more than $3 million held in offshore UBS accounts. Mr. Troost has already paid over $1 million in back taxes, as well as a civil penalty of approximately $3.75 million. April 25, 2013 — Mary Estelle Curran, of Palm Beach, Florida, was sentenced for filing false tax returns. Ms. Curran pleaded guilty in January 2013 and agreed to pay a civil penalty of $21 million. March 21, 2013 — Rakesh Chitkara, of Marlboro, New Jersey, pleaded guilty to filing false personal federal income tax returns. Mr. Chitkara must repay back taxes and pay a civil penalty of $839,885 for willfully failing to file Reports of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBARs) on at least two accounts at UBS AG in Zurich, Switzerland. March 21, 2013 — Rakesh Chitkara, of Marlboro, New Jersey, pleaded guilty to filing false personal federal income tax returns. Mr. Chitkara must repay back taxes and pay a civil penalty of $839,885 for willfully failing to file Reports of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBARs) on at least two accounts at UBS AG in Zurich, Switzerland. October 11, 2012 — Wolfgang Roessel, of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, was sentenced to three years probation. Mr. Roessel pleaded guilty in May 2012 to filing a false tax return and failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR). The plea agreement includes a tax loss of more than $312,000 and an FBAR penalty owed of more than $5,750,000. July 30, 2012 — Sean and Nadia Roberts, of Tehachapi, California, were sentenced to 12 months and one day in prison for hiding millions of dollars in secret offshore bank accounts in Switzerland and other banks around the world. They were also ordered to pay $709,675 in restitution to the IRS and to pay more than $2.5 million in civil penalties failing to file Reports of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBARs). July 25, 2012 — Luis A. Quintero, of Miami Beach, Florida, was sentenced to four months in prison and fined $20,000. Mr. Quintero also paid a $2 million civil penalty. Mr. Quintero pleaded guilty in April 2012 to willfully failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR). March 29, 2012 — Lothar Hoess was sentenced to three years of probation and ordered to pay over $2 million in restitution for willfully failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR). Jan. 30, 2012 – Stephen M. Kerr, Michael Quiel and Christopher M. Rusch were charged in Phoenix, Ariz., with conspiracy to defraud the IRS for concealing millions of dollars in assets in numerous secret Swiss bank accounts held at UBS and elsewhere. Jan. 20, 2012 – Kenneth Heller, of New York, N.Y., was sentenced to 45 days in prison and two years of supervised release. Heller pleaded guilty to income tax evasion in June 2011 and admitted to hiding more than $26.4 million in a bank account at UBS AG. He has agreed to pay a civil penalty of over $9.8 million. Jan. 11, 2012 – Michael Reiss, a doctor, professor and medical researcher, of Princeton, New Jersey, was sentenced to eight months in a community confinement center for failing to file FBAR's with the IRS. Reiss pleaded guilty in August 2011 and agreed to pay back taxes of at least $400,000 and to pay a civil penalty of over $1.2 million. Dec. 7, 2011 – Amir Zavieh, of San Francisco, Calif., was indicted with conspiring to defraud the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). According to the indictment, Zavieh concealed a bank account at UBS by placing his domestic assets in the name of a nominee and failing to file income tax returns. Nov. 9, 2011 – Robert E. Greeley, of San Francisco, was sentenced to three years probation and ordered to pay $16,869 in restitution to the IRS. In addition, Greeley will pay over $6.8 million in civil penalties and interest. Greeley pleaded guilty in August 2011 to charges of filing a false federal income tax return. He concealed more than $13 million in two bank accounts he held with UBS AG. Nov. 9, 2011 – Richard Werdiger, of Purchase, N.Y., was sentenced to one year and one day in prison for conspiring to defraud the IRS by hiding more than $7.1 million at UBS, filing false income tax returns and evading nearly $400,000 in taxes. In addition, Werdiger agreed to pay a civil penalty of over $3.8 million. Oct. 5, 2011 – Peter Schober, of Boston, Mass., was sentenced to one month in prison and six months of supervised release, of which two months will be served in home confinement. Schober was also ordered to pay $77,870 in restitution and a $777,986 civil penalty. In November 2010, Schober pleaded guilty to willfully failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR) concealing over $1 million from the IRS. July 14, 2011 – Anton Ginzburg pleaded guilty to failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR). Ginzburg agreed to pay a civil penalty of over $1.5 million. June 20, 2011 – Sean and Nadia Roberts, of Tehachapi, Calif., pleaded guilty to filing a false tax return related to an undisclosed Swiss bank account at UBS AG. May 24, 2011 – Harry Abrahamsen, of Oradell, N.J., was sentenced to three years probation, including 12 months of home confinement with electronic monitoring, and ordered to pay $600,000 in restitution to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). In addition, Abrahamsen agreed to pay a civil penalty in excess of $300,000. In April 2010, Abrahamsen pleaded guilty to failure to file a (FBAR) report and admitted that he concealed over $1 million in Swiss bank accounts. May 23, 2011 – Lucille Abrahamsen Jackson, of Hilldale, N.J., was sentenced to one year probation. In addition, Jackson agreed to pay a civil penalty in excess of $379,000. Jackson pleaded guilty in November 2010 to filing a false tax return and failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank or Financial Account (FBAR). She admitted to concealing over $750,000 in a UBS account by transferring ownership of the account to a nominee Panamanian corporation. April 21, 2011 – Ernest Vogliano, of Manhattan, N.Y., was sentenced to two years probation and ordered to pay a $940,000 civil penalty. He pleaded guilty on Dec. 22, 2010, to filing false tax returns and conspiring to defraud the Internal Revenue Service by hiding $4.9 million in an offshore bank account with UBS, AG. March 14, 2011 – Jeffrey Chatfield, of San Diego, Calif., was sentenced to three years’ probation and ordered to pay more than $96,000 to resolve his civil liability with the IRS for failing to file the required Reports of Foreign Bank and Financial Reports (FBARs). Chatfield pleaded guilty on Nov. 18, 2010, to filing a false tax return in which he failed to report a UBS account containing $900,000. Between 2000 and 2008, Chatfield transferred the $900,000 through several offshore accounts of nominee entities. March 8, 2011 – Edward Gurary, of Orange Village, Ohio, pleaded guilty to filing false income tax returns for the years 2004 through 2008. Gurary owned and controlled a financial account at UBS AG which was in the name of a Bahamian entity and failed to report interest income earned on his tax returns. March 4, 2011 – Arthur Joel Eisenberg, of Seattle, Wash., was sentenced to serve three years’ probation and to pay a $2.1 million penalty for failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank or Financial Account (FBAR) form. Eisenberg pleaded guilty in December 2010 to willfully filing a false tax return which failed to report over $3.1 million in various UBS bank accounts. Dec. 7, 2010 – Samuel Phineas Upham, of New York, N.Y., was indicted conspiring with a family member to hide over $11 million in an offshore UBS bank account. He also assisted in establishing a sham foundation in Liechtenstein to further conceal money from the IRS. Nov. 19, 2010 – Bernard Goldstein, of Carlsbad, Calif., was indicted for conspiracy to defraud the IRS, filing false tax returns, and failing to file Report of Foreign Bank or Financial Accounts (FBARs). Goldstein is alleged to have transferred over $2 million in a UBS account to a sham Panamanian corporation in an effort to conceal the account from the IRS. Nov. 10, 2010 – Sybil Nancy Upham, of Manhattan, N.Y., pleaded guilty to conspiring to defraud the IRS and subscribing to false federal income tax returns. As part of her plea agreement, Upham has agreed to pay over $5.5 million in penalties for failure to file FBARs. On April 15, 2010, Upham was indicted with five other individuals for hiding millions of dollars in secret Swiss bank accounts. Oct. 4, 2010 – Gregory Rudolph, of Brookline, Mass., pleaded guilty to failing to comply with foreign bank account reporting requirements. UBS bankers assisted Rudolph with creating a shell company registered in the British Virgin Islands and a shell corporation registered in Hong Kong in hiding in excess of $1 million. In October 2010, Rudolph was indicted with Peter Schober. Sept. 21, 2010 – Jules Robbins, of New York, N.Y., who owned and operated watch distribution companies, was sentenced to one year probation and ordered to pay a civil FBAR penalty of $20.8 million. Robbins set up a sham Hong Kong corporation which was listed as the holder of an UBS account in an effort to conceal his income from the IRS. This account and Robbins’ other offshore accounts collectively contained almost $42 million in unreported income. Sept. 17, 2010 – Federico Hernandez, of New York, N.Y., was sentenced to 12 months in prison, six months home confinement, and ordered to pay a civil FBAR penalty of $4.4 million. Hernandez used sham companies set up in the British Virgin Islands and Panama to conceal his ownership of UBS accounts totaling $8.8 million. July 1, 2010 – Leonid Zaltsberg, of Milltown, N.J., pleaded guilty to filing a false tax return for 2003 and failing to file a Report of Foreign Bank or Financial Accounts (FBAR). In his plea agreement, Zaltsberg admitted failing to disclose the existence of a Swiss bank account on his tax returns for the years 2000 through 2006 and concealing over $2 million in his Swiss account. On Dec. 20, 2010, Zaltsberg was sentenced to four years of probation, including one year of home confinement. In addition, he was ordered to pay civil penalties for failing to file an FBAR and a $3,000 fine. April 15, 2010 – In Manhattan, N.Y., seven UBS clients were indicted for collectively hiding over $100 million in secret Swiss bank accounts. Two of these individuals, Jules Robbins and Federico Hernandez, pleaded guilty and agreed to pay civil penalties of $20.8 million and $4.4 million, respectively. The remaining indicted clients were Kenneth Heller, Sybil Nancy Upham, Richard Werdiger, Ernest Vogliano and Shmuel Sternfeld. April 13, 2010 – Paul Zabczuk, of The Woodlands, Texas, pleaded guilty to filing a false tax return wherein he failed to report his interest in or signature authority over financial accounts at UBS AG. Zabczuk was sentenced on July 27, 2010, to three years of supervised release with one year served in home detention and 150 hours community service. In addition, Zabczuk was ordered to file accurate tax returns and pay all taxes, interest and penalties due and owing to the IRS. Feb. 4, 2010 – Jack Barouh of Golden Beach, Fla., pleaded guilty to filing a false tax return. Barouh admitted to filing a false tax return for 2007 in which he failed to report a foreign bank account. He was sentenced to 10 months in prison and ordered to pay all taxes, interest and penalties due and owing. Oct. 5, 2009 – Roberto Cittadini of Bellevue, Wash., pleaded guilty to filing a false tax return and admitted to concealing nearly $2 million in Swiss bank accounts. Cittadini, a retired sales manager for Boeing, failed to file a Report Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts for 2001 through 2003. Cittadini was sentenced on Jan. 8, 2010, to six months home detention and one year supervised release and was ordered to pay a $10,000 fee and $17,985 in restitution. Sept. 25, 2009 -Juergen Homann of Saddle River, N. J., pleaded guilty to failure to file a Report of Foreign Bank or Financial Accounts and accepted responsibility for concealing more than $5 million in Swiss bank accounts. Homann was sentenced on Jan. 6, 2010, to five years probation and was ordered to pay a $60,000 fine. Aug. 14, 2009 – John McCarthy of Malibu, Calif., pleaded guilty to failing to inform the government of a Swiss bank account as part of a scheme to move at least $1 million from the United States into Swiss bank accounts with the goal of avoiding the payment of federal income taxes. McCarthy was sentenced on March 22, 2010, to three years of supervised release with six months served in home detention and 300 hours community service. In addition, he was ordered to pay a $25,000 fine and to file tax returns for 2003 through 2008 and pay all taxes due and owing. July 28, 2009 – Jeffrey P. Chernick of Stanfordville, N.Y., pleaded guilty to charges of filing a false tax return. Chernick, who owns a corporation which represents toy manufacturers in China and Hong Kong, accepted responsibility for concealing more than $8 million in Swiss bank accounts. Chernick was sentenced on Oct. 30, 2009, to three months in prison and one year of supervised release with six months served in home detention. June 25, 2009 – UBS client Steven Michael Rubinstein of Boca Raton, Fla., pleaded guilty to filing a false tax return for tax year 2004. On April 1, 2009, Rubinstein was charged with filing a false tax return that intentionally failed to disclose the existence of a Swiss bank account maintained by UBS of which he was the beneficial owner and failed to report any income earned on that account. Rubinstein was sentenced on Oct. 28, 2009, to three years probation, of which 12 months will be served in home detention. April 14, 2009 – Robert Moran of Lighthouse Point, Fla., pleaded guilty to a criminal information charging him with filing a false income tax return. Moran accepted responsibility for concealing more than $3 million in assets in a secret bank account at UBS in Switzerland. Moran was sentenced on Nov. 6, 2009, to two months in prison and one year of supervised release with five months in home confinement. P.S. The Department of Justice's Tax Division boasts a 91.5% conviction rate for tax crimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 Gotta love the slide-whistle siren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 BTW, I have a fair amount of M Squad DVDs. Damn good show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 I just saw that Tony Fernandez, who was just 57, has died. He apparently had kidney issues and then suffered a stroke; his family elected to take him off life support. RIP. Wonderful player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) Sad news, RIP. Certainly remember those years when he was star player with the Toronto Blue Jays. Edited February 16, 2020 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Washington Post sportswriter John Feinstein: “Given the severity of the Houston Astros’ cheating scandal, it would be almost impossible for the cover-up to do any more damage to the game of baseball. But the Astros and Commissioner Rob Manfred are giving it their best shot.” In the Astros scandal, Rob Manfred has made a bad situation worse LeBron James, one of the most respected athletes in the world, calls out Manfred, says “Fix this for the sake of sports” In a lineage of less-than-glorious MLB commissioners, Rob “the World Series trophy is just a piece of metal” Manfred has still managed to make a name for himself. Edited February 18, 2020 by ghost of miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Dodgers’ Justin Turner rips Manfred Don’t blame him one bit. And now Manfred has said that Astros players admitted the cheating continued throughout the 2017 postseason?! Strip them of their title and take away their “piece of metal” (since it’s “just a piece of metal,” the Astros won’t boohoohoo too much, right?) Maybe ban them from the postseason for 2020 and 2021 as well. Let them slog through two 162-game seasons knowing that it’s all for naught. In the meantime, Mr. Manfred is expressing vigilance about one thing: protecting the Astros from getting beaned. Frustration grows over Manfred’s edict to protect Astros from beanballs Edited February 19, 2020 by ghost of miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 What is the reason this sign stealing is considered so much more serious than the age-old custom of having a guy inside the scoreboard with a pair of binocs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, GA Russell said: What is the reason this sign stealing is considered so much more serious than the age-old custom of having a guy inside the scoreboard with a pair of binocs? It is/was not an age-old custom but very rare. Most notable example was the last month of the 1951 season, when the NY Giants under Leo Durocher did that and made up -- what was it? -- 13 1/2 games on the fading Dodgers and then won the final deciding game between the teams when Bobby Thomson hit a ninth-inning homer off of Ralph Branca -- Thomson, it was revealed years later, having known what pitch was coming thanks to the spy in the scoreboard. Full story here: https://sabr.org/bioproj/topic/1951-giants-cheating-scandal-effects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: It is/was not an age-old custom but very rare. Most notable example was the last month of the 1951 season, when the NY Giants under Leo Durocher did that and made up -- what was it? -- 13 1/2 games on the fading Dodgers and then won the final deciding game between the teams when Bobby Thomson's hit a ninth-inning homer off of Ralph Branca -- Thomson, it was revealed years later, having known what pitch was coming thanks to the spy in the scoreboard. Full story here: https://sabr.org/bioproj/topic/1951-giants-cheating-scandal-effects Larry, I remember when Al Worthington said that Bill Veeck used to do it with the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) I grew up in the Chicago area, mid-60s through mid-70s. Don't remember much talk about Bill Veeck, but wouldn't be surprised. There were constant rumors that the Cubs stationed sign-stealers and signalers in the big old center field scoreboard (manual, requires people inside to hang plates). Not that it did them (or for that matter, the Veeck White Sox) much good... Fenway Park, with its similar left field scoreboard, was the subject of similar speculation. All that just seems quaint and dated in the technology age. BTW, here's an interesting article by Tom Verducci from Sports Illustrated (didn't think it still existed!) on the history of MLB sign stealing. Edited February 19, 2020 by T.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 10 hours ago, T.D. said: All that just seems quaint and dated in the technology age. So many things do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Kart Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Re-watching the excellent 2011 movie "Margin Call," which in compressed form more or less told the tale of the sudden collapse of Lehman Brothers and the resulting dawn of the 2008 Wall St./housing crisis, I was struck anew by the three-part mantra for success under stress that was offered by Jeremy Irons, playing the head of the beleaguered brokerage firm: 1) Be first; 2) Be smarter; 3) Cheat. What Irons and his minions finally decide to do I won't reveal, in case you haven't seen the movie. It's a corker. P.S. Sad to see in a way because Kevin Spacey is so good in this, and when will we ever see him again? Also top notch is Paul Bettany, whose name my wife tells me is pronounced "Bet-TAN-yee." Also, Demi Moore of all people is chillingly good here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: Sad to see in a way because Kevin Spacey is so good in this, and when will we ever see him again? His last two YouTube videos were corkers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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