ghost of miles Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) Hey all, I'm finally getting around to doing a long-contemplated Night Lights show about the first several years of the ECM label. Obvious candidates for inclusion are Mal Waldron's Free At Last and Marion Brown's Afternoon Of A Georgia Faun, Jarrett's Facing You, Circle's Paris Concert, Dave Holland's Conference of the Birds, etc., but what are some of your favorites from the 1969-1973 era? (I think 1973 is as late as I'm going to go, which still leaves me with a ton of material to choose from. Here's an overall list of ECM releases: List of ECM Records albums Edited October 25, 2019 by ghost of miles Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 Corea's Piano Improvisations. Bley's Open, To Love. Robin Kenyatta's Girl From Martinique. Stanley Cowell's Illusion Suite. Motian's Conception Vessel. Bennie Maupin's Jewel In The Lotus (1974, but still....) Garbarek - Afric Pepperbird and Sart. Garbarek/Stinson - Witchi-Tai-To. Burton/Corea - Crystal Silence Those are all records I can listen to now with every bit the satisfaction I did then, and sometimes with more. Quote
ghost of miles Posted October 25, 2019 Author Report Posted October 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, JSngry said: Corea's Piano Improvisations. Bley's Open, To Love. Robin Kenyatta's Girl From Martinique. Stanley Cowell's Illusion Suite. Motian's Conception Vessel. Bennie Maupin's Jewel In The Lotus (1974, but still....) Garbarek - Afric Pepperbird and Sart. Garbarek/Stinson - Witchi-Tai-To. Burton/Corea - Crystal Silence Those are all records I can listen to now with every bit the satisfaction I did then, and sometimes with more. That is a great list, Jim—thanks so much. (And I may well round the show off at 1974... just so much good music to choose from.) I have the Maupin, the Motian and the Corea/Burton, but none of the others. Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 Yeah, those are some good records. Objectively, Colors Of Chloe should be added to the list. But that's one that has not worn as well for me as the others. In it's time, though, pretty striking, and I know it still has its advocates. Those albums with Jan Garbarek are pretty badass, actually. "Icy fire", of course, but the fire is pretty damn hot. The ice doesn't melt, but don't let that fool you into thinking it's not because the fire ain't hot. It's damn hot. I think it basically comes down to a perfect balance of elements, individually and collectively. The Corea solo albums are worth a show unto themselves, actually. This is Chick transitioning, and along the way, everything gets covered. Everything. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 Along with the LPs already mentioned, I'd suggest Bobo Stenson's Underwear and Dave Liebman's Lookout Farm. Also, Chick's Return to Forever, recorded in 1972. To me, this version of the band -- with Airto & Flora -- was the most interesting incarnation of RTF, by far. Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Also, Chick's Return to Forever, recorded in 1972. To me, this version of the band -- with Airto & Flora -- was the most interesting incarnation of RTF, by far. Yeah, not even close. Quote
sidewinder Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 Julian Priester Pepo Mtoto ‘Love, Love’ Quote
felser Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, JSngry said: Yeah, not even close. A third vote for that one, and second votes for the Corea Piano Improvisations, Cowell, Liebman, Corea/Burton, and Witch-Tai-To. 5 minutes ago, sidewinder said: Julian Priester Pepo Mtoto ‘Love, Love’ Great album, but (just) post 1973 cutoff. I also like Priester's "Polarization", but "Love, Love" is magnificent. Quote
Guy Berger Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 1973-74 seems like a good cutoff, btw. Lots of great recordings from afterward, but the "uniformity" that folks often associate with the label start showing up around then and the "freewheelingness" of those early recordings began to fade. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 38 minutes ago, sidewinder said: Julian Priester Pepo Mtoto ‘Love, Love’ Fantastic album! - one of the very best of any label in that entire half-decade. An absolute stunner. The Stanley Cowell is pretty phenomenal too, and I don’t even regret the Japanese import price I paid for mine to get it on CD. Quote
mjzee Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 For your show to be truly representational, not only of ECM through 1973 but also the seeds of what it became, you should include some Ralph Towner (Trios / Solos works), Gary Burton (The New Quartet is a monster, though a lot harder-edged than his work just a few years later), and Keith Jarrett's Solo Concerts (since Keith is to ECM as Jimmy Smith was to Blue Note - the earnings that powered the company). Maybe also a Jan Garbarek, since he's on sooooooo many ECM releases. Quote
ghost of miles Posted October 25, 2019 Author Report Posted October 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, mjzee said: For your show to be truly representational, not only of ECM through 1973 but also the seeds of what it became, you should include some Ralph Towner (Trios / Solos works), Gary Burton (The New Quartet is a monster, though a lot harder-edged than his work just a few years later), and Keith Jarrett's Solo Concerts (since Keith is to ECM as Jimmy Smith was to Blue Note - the earnings that powered the company). Maybe also a Jan Garbarek, since he's on sooooooo many ECM releases. I have Burton's New Quartet album, the Towner/Burton Matchbook collaboration, and a later Towner; can probably track down a number of the sides recommended in this thread that are currently neither in my or the station library's possession. But I agree that material that represents the seeds of what ECM became is worthy of inclusion. Quote
sidewinder Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, felser said: Great album, but (just) post 1973 cutoff. I also like Priester's "Polarization", but "Love, Love" is magnificent. Recorded.1973, released 1974. Agree that it is superb - ‘Polarization’ I personally find even better. Wonder why that one never saw a CD issue? Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 There's a show to be had dealing just with Mwandishi-band side projects. Quote
ghost of miles Posted October 25, 2019 Author Report Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JSngry said: There's a show to be had dealing just with Mwandishi-band side projects. Yes indeedy! That's a great idea... if I do it, you shall receive a full and loud credit, sir! Actually working on the 2020 schedule right now... that would be a good fit and light a fire under my butt to finally crack open Bob Gluck's book about that band. Edited October 25, 2019 by ghost of miles Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 Get hold of the Eddie Henderson Capricorn sides so you don't have to depend on the BNs. The Capricorns are the real deal. Quote
felser Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 34 minutes ago, JSngry said: Get hold of the Eddie Henderson Capricorn sides so you don't have to depend on the BNs. The Capricorns are the real deal. One stop shopping, thought it'll cost ya: Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, felser said: One stop shopping, thought it'll cost ya: Is that an anthology, or does it include both albums in full? Or is it both albums in full plus? Quote
erwbol Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, JSngry said: Is that an anthology, or does it include both albums in full? Or is it both albums in full plus? Both albums in full. No extras. Quote
felser Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, JSngry said: Is that an anthology, or does it include both albums in full? Or is it both albums in full plus? It's the two albums, no more and no less. Quote
ghost of miles Posted October 25, 2019 Author Report Posted October 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, felser said: One stop shopping, thought it'll cost ya: Fortunately I've already got this one, though haven't listened to it in a long time. Thanks for your and Jim's advice... how is the preceding V. 1 of Blue Note material? Quote
soulpope Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 5 hours ago, JSngry said: Stanley Cowell's Illusion Suite. Yes .... Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, ghost of miles said: Fortunately I've already got this one, though haven't listened to it in a long time. Thanks for your and Jim's advice... how is the preceding V. 1 of Blue Note material? The BNs came after the Capricorns. They're good in points, but somewhat diluted overall. Quote
sidewinder Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ghost of miles said: Fortunately I've already got this one, though haven't listened to it in a long time. Thanks for your and Jim's advice... how is the preceding V. 1 of Blue Note material? Very nice - was spinning it just the other day. The Antholgy captures the pick of those Blue Note tracks - a bit more ‘disco’ in parts than the Capricorns. Their Bartz Anthology is good too. Back to ECM... Edited October 25, 2019 by sidewinder Quote
JSngry Posted October 25, 2019 Report Posted October 25, 2019 So there's an anthology of Eddie Henderson' BN material as well? Quote
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