Poll: Jimmy Smith - Blue Note or Verve?

[Teasing the Korean]

Self-explanatory.

[jazzbo]

Blue Note for me.

[Brad]

BN all the way. I have 16 CDs, all but one BN. 

[Teasing the Korean]

The question is prompted in part based on how I file Jimmy Smith.  I filed the Blue Note albums in the Jazz section, but I file the Verve albums in the Now Sound section.  I listen to both, but given the choice, I lean toward Verve.  

[felser]

I file my 30's-70's Blue Notes separately from my main jazz shelves.  Do the same with Strata-East and Black Jazz.  Cases where I mostly identify with the label more strongly than with the artists.

[Teasing the Korean]

1 minute ago, felser said:

I file my 30's-70's Blue Notes separately from my main jazz shelves.  Do the same with Strata-East and Black Jazz.  Cases where I mostly identify with the label more strongly than with the artists.

I don't think I've ever filed by label.  I have Blue Note albums in the Jazz, Now Sound, Latin, Brazilian, Space-Age Bachelor, and Exotica sections, depending. 

Most of the Verve albums in the Now Sound, Brazilian, or Latin sections.  A few I file with Jazz.  

[jazzbo]

I have assembled all my Blue Notes in one area, as well as my Impulse! titles. I'm planning on doing the same with Mainstream, CTI and Savoy.  I don't file anything by "genre." In years past I filed all by artist, alphabetically, but this century it's mostly chaos.

[Teasing the Korean]

10 minutes ago, jazzbo said:

I don't file anything by "genre." 

Lots of people say this, but my mind does not work that way.  If a jazz artist recorded one kick-ass Latin record, I have to file it with the Latin records, or I'll never remember that I have it. 

[Brad]

I’ve never thought of filing anything for jazz by genre or label. I have everything arranged A-Z.  Mosaics are arranged by number. 

Obviously, my rock albums are separate. 

[Teasing the Korean]

41 minutes ago, Brad said:

I’ve never thought of filing anything for jazz by genre or label. I have everything arranged A-Z.  Mosaics are arranged by number. 

That wouldn't work for me. 

[JSngry]

"Verve" alone is not a sufficient category. Creed Taylor Verve Jimmy Smith and post-Creed Taylor Verve Jimmy Smith are different types of records.

[Teasing the Korean]

1 minute ago, JSngry said:

"Verve" alone is not a sufficient category. Creed Taylor Verve Jimmy Smith and post-Creed Taylor Verve Jimmy Smith are different types of records.

Yeah, but most of us were smart enough to avoid Verve after Creed Taylor left.

[JSngry]

Well, as it pertains to Jimmy Smith, you weren't too smart if you avoided The Boss, Portuguese Soul, Root Down, and Bluesmith.

You weren't alone, either, but still, you weren't smart it you did that!!!

[felser]

 

2 hours ago, jazzbo said:

I have assembled all my Blue Notes in one area, as well as my Impulse! titles. I'm planning on doing the same with Mainstream, CTI and Savoy.  I don't file anything by "genre." In years past I filed all by artist, alphabetically, but this century it's mostly chaos.

I have two genre sections, one for jazz and one for everything else (I don't do classical).  CTI is a really good idea for segregating, and Mainstream would make sense for me.  Savoy sort of mixes in with Prestige, Riverside, etc. for me.

[Teasing the Korean]

2 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Well, as it pertains to Jimmy Smith, you weren't too smart if you avoided The Boss, Portuguese Soul, Root Down, and Bluesmith.

Of course I bought them:  They were 50 cents or a buck a throw, like everything else I bought in the 1990s.  Can't remember the last time I spun them, but I bought them!

[felser]

11 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said:

Of course I bought them:  They were 50 cents or a buck a throw, like everything else I bought in the 1990s.  Can't remember the last time I spun them, but I bought them!

I have Root Down, and appreciate it.  Not aware of the others.  Man, he recorded a LOT of albums in the 50's and 60's!

[CJ Shearn]

Blue Note for sure but there are gems, as JSngry alluded to on Verve. The Boss, Bluesmith, I Got My Mojo Workin, Hoochie Coochie Man, Respect, Damn, Angel Eyes, Organ Grinder Swing.  The only Blue Notes that don't get it done for me are Bucket and Straight Life.

[JSngry]

Those are all really good records The Boss, Portuguese Soul, Root Down, and Bluesmith. . Some of the others, not so much.

As for your poll, I don't know, depends on what I want to hear. If it's just blowing, Blue Note. If it's a more programmed presentation, Verve.

But truthfully, I can't take too much of either for too long of a time these days. In both cases, the records are (usually) essentially over before they begin, if you know what I mean.

Nevertheless, there's post-Verve, including the gemette It's Necessary, where Teddy Edwards plays some blues. It was on Mercury, but, you know, coorporatto regatto, by the time anybody was ready to pay attention, they called it Verve.

Teddy's also on Bluesmith, and he plays some blues there too.

 

[Teasing the Korean]

5 minutes ago, JSngry said:

As for your poll, I don't know, depends on what I want to hear. If it's just blowing, Blue Note. If it's a more programmed presentation, Verve.

Bingo.

[Brad]

1 hour ago, JSngry said:

Well, as it pertains to Jimmy Smith, you weren't too smart if you avoided The Boss, Portuguese Soul, Root Down, and Bluesmith.

You weren't alone, either, but still, you weren't smart it you did that!!!

Guess I’m a quarter smart then!

[JSngry]

Or 3/4 not alone!

[HutchFan]

Both for me. Both apples and oranges are delicious!

[danasgoodstuff]

BN for me - I own and enjoy some of the Verves but I'm near complete on BN and spin them more often too.  There are at least three different sorts of BN, and a few that aren't much like any of the others.  

[Shrdlu]

You gotta be kidding.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

If youre hardcore into jazz its BN- but if you want to hear how he progressed through the years into trying different settings and productions, the you can follow the verve years and beyond