Teasing the Korean Posted August 30, 2019 Report Posted August 30, 2019 This is pretty friggin' awesome... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MtVhZor4xY Quote
Ted O'Reilly Posted August 30, 2019 Report Posted August 30, 2019 It's good to see my old friend John Sumner playing drums there (best seen around 4:55). John died here in Toronto, where he had lived for the last three decades, just a couple of months back. There were some wonderful stories told about John--a totally interesting man--at a lovely memorial service for him. Quote
JSngry Posted August 30, 2019 Report Posted August 30, 2019 I like Andy Williams just fine, but it seems to me that he's (mostly) not really getting the flow of the lyrics in his phrasing? After looking on YT, I gotta ask (and hope you can find the answer) - WWJJD? Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted August 30, 2019 Author Report Posted August 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, JSngry said: After looking on YT, I gotta ask (and hope you can find the answer) - WWJJD? I don't know. He is a fine singer, but I don't think he ever recorded the song. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Posted August 31, 2019 11 hours ago, Ted O'Reilly said: It's good to see my old friend John Sumner playing drums there (best seen around 4:55). John died here in Toronto, where he had lived for the last three decades, just a couple of months back. There were some wonderful stories told about John--a totally interesting man--at a lovely memorial service for him. He looks like Dennis Wilson wearing an Afro wig! Quote
Ted O'Reilly Posted August 31, 2019 Report Posted August 31, 2019 14 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: He looks like Dennis Wilson wearing an Afro wig! Sorry, but since I only vaguely know what Mr. Wilson looks like... Seeing as how that has nothing to do with the music, please look again and maybe refer to the performance, perhaps referring to the drummer, who had a hard task moving along some 5 dozen musicians. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ted O'Reilly said: Sorry, but since I only vaguely know what Mr. Wilson looks like... Seeing as how that has nothing to do with the music, please look again and maybe refer to the performance, perhaps referring to the drummer, who had a hard task moving along some 5 dozen musicians. Sorry, but looks and aesthetics have EVERYTHING to do with music. Do you think 70s big band/jazz rock performances would be any good if the players didn't have mutton chop sideburns, comb overs, aviator-frame glasses, and powder-blue polyester tuxedos? Edited August 31, 2019 by Teasing the Korean Quote
sgcim Posted August 31, 2019 Report Posted August 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: Sorry, but looks and aesthetics have EVERYTHING to do with music. Do you think 70s big band/jazz rock performances would be any good if the players didn't have mutton chop sideburns, comb overs, aviator-frame glasses, and powder-blue polyester tuxedos? I like the way Andy left the stage when the orchestra took over, and then came out all in white to sing the last part .Must be symbolic or something... Ted's right; the drummer played the schist out of that chart, and I liked the way they let the guitarist rock out on parts of the instrumental section. Jimmy Webb talks about the time that he was writing great tunes like that as a period when emotion was burning out of his brain, and it just seemed to wind up as notes on the staff. Sounds right to me. Quote
Ted O'Reilly Posted August 31, 2019 Report Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: Sorry, but looks and aesthetics have EVERYTHING to do with music. Do you think 70s big band/jazz rock performances would be any good if the players didn't have mutton chop sideburns, comb overs, aviator-frame glasses, and powder-blue polyester tuxedos? "Sorry, but looks and aesthetics have EVERYTHING to do with music." Yeah, that's why I have NEVER just listened to it....always waited until the DVD came out. Which was a long wait from 1952 when jazz first appealed to me. ...anyway, John Sumner was a very fine jazz drummer, and had a vast music collection, especially knowledgeable about the '40s through '60s West Coast era, when he was growing up and learning. He was originally a Californian, latterly Canadian and a welcome addition to the Toronto music scene. Quote
JSngry Posted September 1, 2019 Report Posted September 1, 2019 5 hours ago, sgcim said: Jimmy Webb talks about the time that he was writing great tunes like that as a period when emotion was burning out of his brain, and it just seemed to wind up as notes on the staff. Sounds right to me. That Reunion album he did with Glen Campbell always seemed a little "off" to me, with the exception of this song, which is exactly as you describe there. That's some angry shit right there. Quote
JSngry Posted September 1, 2019 Report Posted September 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: Do you think 70s big band/jazz rock performances would be any good if the players didn't have mutton chop sideburns, comb overs, aviator-frame glasses, and powder-blue polyester tuxedos? Wow, (almost) all of that, MacArthur Park, AND a chance for Ted to play Name The Canadians...talk about a Perfect Storm not named Dorian, this is Thread Serendippity Doo of the highest order!!!! Quote
Bill Nelson Posted September 1, 2019 Report Posted September 1, 2019 Stan Kenton did this electrifying version (after 3:34) on his 'Live at Redlands' album, August, 1970. The band goes wild at 3:34 after a lame attempt singing the basic lyric -- waving their arms in circles at the point of "looking at the sun". I had the pleasure of sitting front row center when they did this at Boise State in 1972 and it was indeed a thrill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM6HacD_5hu Quote
sgcim Posted September 1, 2019 Report Posted September 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Bill Nelson said: Stan Kenton did this electrifying version (after 3:34) on his 'Live at Redlands' album, August, 1970. The band goes wild at 3:34 after a lame attempt singing the basic lyric -- waving their arms in circles at the point of "looking at the sun". I had the pleasure of sitting front row center when they did this at Boise State in 1972 and it was indeed a thrill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM6HacD_5hu It says, "video unavailable". I think Peter Erskine was in the band during that time period, and the thought of seeing him and other guys in the band being forced to sing the lyrics of the song while waving their arms in circles is so pathetic, that there must another video of this somewhere. I'm still trying to figure out the symbolism involved in the Andy Williams version, where he comes out for the last verse dressed all in white. It's gotta involve either the theme of resurrection , or maybe even The Second Coming; they thought in grand terms back then... 23 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: Sorry, but looks and aesthetics have EVERYTHING to do with music. Do you think 70s big band/jazz rock performances would be any good if the players didn't have mutton chop sideburns, comb overs, aviator-frame glasses, and powder-blue polyester tuxedos? I like the way Andy left the stage when the orchestra took over, and then came out all in white to sing the last part .Must be symbolic or something... Ted's right; the drummer played the schist out of that chart, and I liked the way they let the guitarist rock out on parts of the instrumental section. Jimmy Webb talks about the time that he was writing great tunes like that as a period when emotion was burning out of his brain, and it just seemed to wind up as notes on the staff. Sounds right to me. Quote
JSngry Posted September 1, 2019 Report Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, sgcim said: I'm still trying to figure out the symbolism involved in the Andy Williams version, where he comes out for the last verse dressed all in white. It's gotta involve either the theme of resurrection , or maybe even The Second Coming; they thought in grand terms back then... In his mind, he had turned into Elvis. Nothing more than that. Quote
Ted O'Reilly Posted September 1, 2019 Report Posted September 1, 2019 20 hours ago, JSngry said: Wow, (almost) all of that, MacArthur Park, AND a chance for Ted to play Name The Canadians...talk about a Perfect Storm not named Dorian, this is Thread Serendippity Doo of the highest order!!!! I could indeed name all the players...would you like me to? There's a whole dang bunch of them no longer with us. (But the garb and hair live on...) Quote
JSngry Posted September 1, 2019 Report Posted September 1, 2019 Name away, music needs lists in order to survive! Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted September 2, 2019 Author Report Posted September 2, 2019 Our hero hits it out of the park with Q's theme from The Pawnbroker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aEBDL1T4JM Quote
JSngry Posted September 2, 2019 Report Posted September 2, 2019 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0512707/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast Jack Elliott ... musical arranger / musical director Dave Grusin ... additional music arrangements Richard Hazard ... additional music arrangements Johnny Mandel ... additional music arrangements Quote
sgcim Posted September 2, 2019 Report Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Teasing the Korean said: Our hero hits it out of the park with Q's theme from The Pawnbroker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aEBDL1T4JM The guy was a tremendous ballads singer, and he married Claudine Longet, the beautiful, boyfriend shooter! Who knew that The Pawnbroker had a love theme? Who was the guitar player on AW's MacArthur Park? Mandel, Grusin and Elliot; all working on the same show. Quote
felser Posted September 2, 2019 Report Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) I like Williams's 60's Columbia work quite a bit. Have some on shelf with Sinatra's 50's Capitol albums and some early Johnny Mathis. As far as the wardrobe change, I think some sweet green icing had melted onto the black tux Edited September 2, 2019 by felser Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted September 2, 2019 Author Report Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, sgcim said: Who knew that The Pawnbroker had a love theme? On the Mercury soundtrack LP, the tune is poorly warbled by some kid whose career began and ended the day he went into the studio to record the song. Tony Bennett and Sarah Vaughan both recorded the song at the time. Quote
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