chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 dont we all like piper and saucerful and sountrack to more- i mean i dont collect british psych singles or anything but piper is my go to album for that stuff! Quote
Scott Dolan Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 By "timeless" I mean it doesn't sound like it came from any particular era. You don't listen to Wish You Were Here and say, "well, that's obviously mid 70's Rock". Quote
JSngry Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 OTOH, you don't listen to it and say, hey. that's from the 1940s or OOOH, gotta be 2019, couldn't have been before then. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 Driving to work this morning I happened to be tuned in to a radio station where they aired "Another Brick in The Wall". To me it most obviously was "oh, 1979 revisited" - with connotations of several specific situations and evenings back then. I wonder how many other listeners would have taken it to be of totally "undefinable", "timeless" vintage and would not have reacted like "oh, that's been around before" at the very least. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted April 8, 2019 Author Report Posted April 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, Big Beat Steve said: Driving to work this morning I happened to be tuned in to a radio station where they aired "Another Brick in The Wall". To me it most obviously was "oh, 1979 revisited" - with connotations of several specific situations and evenings back then. I wonder how many other listeners would have taken it to be of totally "undefinable", "timeless" vintage and would not have reacted like "oh, that's been around before" at the very least. I don't know that all of The Wall is equally 'dated' -- but "Another Brick..." certainly is. And to my ears, The Wall (or Roger Waters' 70% of it) is largely and substantially different than 90% of what preceded it in the band's canon. To be honest, I think The Wall mostly deserves to be filed on the shelf under 'W' with the rest of Roger's solo output, the difference is so stark musically. I barely listen to The Wall 3x per decade at this point (if that even). It's a monumental album, and Roger deserves every credit for its great success. But on musical terms, little of it does a whole lot for me -- save for the couple signature tunes that David Gilmour wrote -- but even then, I find them marred by Roger's lyrics -- which I personally think sound awkward in Dave's voice. Roger might be the better lyricist -- perhaps even by a mile -- but I find his post-Animals lyrical output something more akin to that of a playwright. The Wall, and The Final Cut, and all of Roger's solo albums might be quite interesting to hear (or rather, experience), like a good stage play -- something I only need hear ('see') every 5 or 10 or even 15 years. Whereas the music and lyricism of Dave's soaring guitar, and lovely voice - is something I'm quite happy to hear a few times in the same week (even the very same album), when I'm in the mood for that. Quote
JSngry Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 As anybody done a mashup of "Brick..." & "Billie Jean"? Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted April 8, 2019 Author Report Posted April 8, 2019 46 minutes ago, JSngry said: As anybody done a mashup of "Brick..." & "Billie Jean"? There's some sort of "Brick..." and Bee Gees mashup, I'm sure I've heard at some point. Quote
felser Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 BTW, the DSOTM/Wizard of Oz thing is pretty cool to do, especially the bell on Dorothy's bike. Quote
JSngry Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 Wizard Of Oz? Geez, that's ANOTHER thing I hope to never do again! Quote
felser Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, JSngry said: Wizard Of Oz? Geez, that's ANOTHER thing I hope to never do again! May not be able to avoid the movie if you have grandkids. Quote
JSngry Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 I have a grandchild. She has her own house with her parents, who have their own TVs and stuff. I don't want to be there when the flying monkeys sent her screaming from the room. Quote
Guy Berger Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Scott Dolan said: By "timeless" I mean it doesn't sound like it came from any particular era. You don't listen to Wish You Were Here and say, "well, that's obviously mid 70's Rock". I think most people, listening to it, would almost certainly say "that's old people music" or maybe "that's old white people music" (not to say Anglocentric!) Edited April 8, 2019 by Guy Berger Quote
mjazzg Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 And some might say "preposterous, pretentious, self-referential and over-produced, Anglocentric music". Some others wouldn't, naturally To me, it's forever the soundtrack to a time when the UK wasn't showing it's best side... In the same year some of us were listening to 'London Calling' and defending that against accusations of "preposterous, pretentious, self-referential and over-produced". Happy days indeed. Quote
Scott Dolan Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said: Driving to work this morning I happened to be tuned in to a radio station where they aired "Another Brick in The Wall". To me it most obviously was "oh, 1979 revisited" - with connotations of several specific situations and evenings back then. I wonder how many other listeners would have taken it to be of totally "undefinable", "timeless" vintage and would not have reacted like "oh, that's been around before" at the very least. One tune. And likely because of how ubiquitous it was, and still is really. I stand by my claim, and at least two others have agreed, so it's not like I'm just pulling it out of my ass. Quote
felser Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, mjazzg said: And some might say "preposterous, pretentious, self-referential and over-produced, Anglocentric music". Some others wouldn't, naturally To me, it's forever the soundtrack to a time when the UK wasn't showing it's best side... In the same year some of us were listening to 'London Calling' and defending that against accusations of "preposterous, pretentious, self-referential and over-produced". Happy days indeed. I dutifully own both, don't have any particular need to actually listen to either. Much more likely to pull this 1979 landmark out to give a spin. Ah ah, beep beep! Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Nobody said you were, Scott D.. But there are lots of other listeners out there who might or might not agree. Some agree with you here, Guy Berger seems to agree more with my impressions. No point counting here. Much too small a sample. No final word possible. Just personal opinions. Edited April 8, 2019 by Big Beat Steve Quote
mjazzg Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, felser said: I dutifully own both, don't have any particular need to actually listen to either. Much more likely to pull this 1979 landmark out to give a spin. Ah ah, beep beep! A big to that one too Quote
JSngry Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 Vocabularic ignorance aplenty here: https://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-ubiquitous.html Quote
JSngry Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, mjazzg said: Oh yes On the radio stations I was listening to, THAT'S what was ubiquitous! Less ubiquitous, but a better record, imo: Justo Almario trying to make pop music safe for Joe Henderson, Hey, gotta love that! Quote
Guy Berger Posted April 8, 2019 Report Posted April 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Scott Dolan said: One tune. And likely because of how ubiquitous it was, and still is really. I stand by my claim, and at least two others have agreed, so it's not like I'm just pulling it out of my ass. I'd be curious (if you're willing to share) what your age is, relative to the median ages of the US (~38) Quote
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