Charles Tolliver All-Stars vinyl and CD reissue

[felser]

11 hours ago, BFrank said:

I picked up the Tolliver CD earlier this year from Mosaic. You might want to check their site. 

I also got the CD from Mosaic via pre-order, thx.

[Harbour]

Just noticed that Dusty Groove now have this cd ( I assume it’s same version, it’s listed as just on Strata East) coming into stock soon for those who balked at Mosaics postage.

Also listed coming in next couple of weeks is one by him entitled “In The Trenches”, anyone know what this is, is it some of the long promised archive stuff that was mentioned years back??

https://www.dustygroove.com/item/944527?incl_cs=1&no_incl_in=1&sort_order=release_date&format=cd

https://www.dustygroove.com/item/944626?incl_cs=1&no_incl_in=1&sort_order=release_date&format=cd

Just found an old mention of In The Trenches here, no date of recording though

http://www.serecs.com/coming.html

Edited February 15, 2020 by Harbour

[felser]

The Strata East website never proved to be dependable for upcoming release info.

[Pim]

I saw that one too. But what is this:

https://www.dustygroove.com/item/944626?cat=jazz&incl_cs=1&no_incl_in=1&sort_order=release_date

 

[jazzbo]

I think it's the one on this page that Harbour linked to:

http://www.serecs.com/coming.html

[felser]

I hope it's true,  but I'll believe it when I see it.

[Pim]

9 hours ago, jazzbo said:

I think it's the one on this page that Harbour linked to:

http://www.serecs.com/coming.html

Oh boy, new Tolliver.... I am definitely in! 

[felser]

On 2/16/2020 at 1:04 AM, Pim said:

Oh boy, new Tolliver.... I am definitely in! 

That has been sitting on the Strata-East website for a long long time.   I don't expect to actually ever see it, though it would be great to have.

[Pim]

3 hours ago, felser said:

That has been sitting on the Strata-East website for a long long time.   I don't expect to actually ever see it, though it would be great to have.

Ah didnt knew that. Let’s just hope for the best

[JSngry]

I've set a notification at DG, just to be safe. Seems like one of those things that you either get it early or not at all.

[Harbour]

6 hours ago, felser said:

That has been sitting on the Strata-East website for a long long time.   I don't expect to actually ever see it, though it would be great to have.

It’s been listed on the Strata East site for years yes but this is first time it’s actually been listed on a proper vendors site so hoping for the best!

so no one has any idea what time period the Trenches session is from?

[JSngry]

https://markweber.free-jazz.net/2014/08/09/radio/

Charles Tolliver Quintet —– May 10, 1981 @ Maiden Voyage, downtown Los Angeles —- Buck Clarke, congas; Sunduza William Henderson, piano; Clifford Barbaro, drums; Tony Dumas, bass —- this evening was recorded for Jazz Alive broadcast, I recall Michael Cuscuna was there (or was that another night?) —- photo by Mark Weber —- I have always loved Tolliver’s tune “On the Nile” and Horace Tapscott kept it in his Pan Afrikan People’s Arkestra book for years —- (this is the William Henderson who recorded with Bradford & John Carter on their 1972 album SECRETS)

[felser]

58 minutes ago, JSngry said:

I have always loved Tolliver’s tune “On the Nile”

Me too!

[Pim]

8 hours ago, felser said:

Me too!

That makes three of us! Especially the ‘big-band’ version on the self titled Music Inc.

[Rooster_Ties]

FWIW, Dusty just got in a copy (copies?) of the 1968 "All-Stars" (Paper Man) CD sometime in the last few hours.

Copies direct from Mosaic were (and still are) $17 each (plus shipping) -- but are only $14 each from Dusty (plus shipping).

[Rooster_Ties]

On 2/17/2020 at 5:21 PM, JSngry said:

https://markweber.free-jazz.net/2014/08/09/radio/

Charles Tolliver Quintet —– May 10, 1981 @ Maiden Voyage, downtown Los Angeles —- Buck Clarke, congas; Sunduza William Henderson, piano; Clifford Barbaro, drums; Tony Dumas, bass —- this evening was recorded for Jazz Alive broadcast...

Saw/heard Charles Tolliver in Baltimore last night (went up with Bertrand) — what a concert!! — and we talked with Charles after.

He confirmed this 1981 Maiden Voyage show is what’s being released (which I now see a new date for on Dusty Groove, as *May 1st* (no longer March 1st). He also said there was more material being released from that same show beyond whatever already circulates — so that sounds like maybe one(?) really long CD (I forgot to ask if it was one or two discs).

Charles sounded really great last night as the night went on, 2nd set especially. Both sets included new Tolliver tunes too, which we’ll all hopefully get to hear at some point.  Here’s the band last night...

Charles Tolliver, trumpet
Buster Williams, bass
Lenny White, drums
Keith Brown, piano
Bruce Edwards, guitar

Bruce Edwards, I didn’t realize until the pre-concert intro of the band by the venue host, played with Sun Ra(!) in the 80’s (he’s all over the A&M album Blue Delight, for instance, also Live At Pitt-Inn too), and continued with the Marshall Allen led Arkestra (so it turns out I'd already heard him 2-3 times before last night). I’ve always loved his guitar color with the Arkestra, since you don’t typically think of guitar when you think of Sun Ra — but I’ve always thought he fits in beautifully with all those great original Ra-penned tunes (actual TUNES) that Ra was performing more in the 80’s, “Interstellar Low Ways” for instance.

Anyway, a GREAT night, and my first time ever hearing Tolliver live after 20+ years of loving his music. He never came to Kansas City (or St. Louis) in all that time, and I’ve never gotten up to NYC to hear him I’m a little ashamed to say (I’ve only gotten up to NYC once since I moved to DC in 2011).

PS:  Charles looked great for being 77 (didn't look a day over 70), and I see he has a birthday coming up THIS week (on Friday, March 6), so he's really practically 78.  Seemed to be getting around great, and was on his feet the entire concert and for a time after.

Edited March 2, 2020 by Rooster_Ties

[felser]

Great to know that is actually coming out!

[sidewinder]

Mr Tolliver is definitely in a roll and getting a higher profile which is very good to see. First time I saw him was with Louis Hayes’ Quintet back in 1990 - a very low key, in the shadows but fine performance which, knowing his back history, I thought was a shame at the time. He must have just been on the return into live gigging from the academic stuff, I guess.

Bruce Edwards - now there’s a blast from the past and I think I might have seen him with the Arkestra around that time.

Edited March 1, 2020 by sidewinder

[kh1958]

When I saw Charles Tolliver at the Cell Theater in NYC a few years ago, his band also featured Bruce Edwards.

[Rooster_Ties]

Just reflecting on how thankful I am for having had the chance to hear Charles play live (my first and only time), up in Baltimore back at the end of February (see my review a few posts above).

One of the last live things I managed to see, before things started shutting down just a couple weeks later.

[Eric]

FYI he has a cool live track that is new to Spotify.  Not sure if is unreleased or whether an album is forthcoming.

 

Edited September 28 by Eric

[soulpope]

4 hours ago, Eric said:

FYI he has a cool live track that is new to Spotify.  Not sure if is unreleased or whether an album is forthcoming.

A forthcoming 2CD on Reel To Real .... recorded live @ Captain Cabin Edmonton in 1973 .... feat. John Hicks (p) + Clint Houston (b) + Cliff Barbaro (dr) .... looking tasty indeed ....

[colinmce]

Awesome. 

[sidewinder]

Must be another recording from the Marc Vasey collection recorded for the CBC. Sounds good !

[Daniel A]

CD 1：

1. Black Vibrations (C. Houston) 12:27

2. Earl's World (C. Tolliver) 11:08

3. Impact (C. Tolliver) 6:38

4. Compassion (C. Tolliver) 12:47

 

CD 2：

1. Truth (C. Tolliver) 9:17

2. Repetition (N. Hefti) 13:09

3. Stretch (C. Tolliver) 16:38