HutchFan Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 39 minutes ago, Pim said: Listening to Hutcherson’s Oblique now. I have to admit: again the sound is superb. Incredible! Very tempting!!! Quote
mjzee Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 I'm intrigued by this upcoming Tone Poet release (on January 29) because the cover doesn't say stereo. Could this be mono? On the other hand, the back cover clearly says BST-81569. But I can dream. Quote
sidewinder Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: Very tempting!!! Yes, it does sound very good I’m afraid ! Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, mjzee said: I'm intrigued by this upcoming Tone Poet release (on January 29) because the cover doesn't say stereo. Could this be mono? On the other hand, the back cover clearly says BST-81569. But I can dream. The cover says 81569. If it was mono, there would be no 8. BLP-1569 would be the mono catalog number. That is one Tone Poet I will not be buying. Not a fan of Chambers' solos on that. Quote
Pim Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: Very tempting!!! You as our one and only Hutchfan should buy it without hesitation have to say I bought my TP also because I did not own the music yet. They say ‘Passing Ships’ by Andrew Hill will be among the 2021 releases but I dont think I am going to get it because I already have the Conaisseur edition. And for a replacement of something I already have they really are too expensive. Plus there’s so much music out there that I want to explore. Edited January 5, 2021 by Pim Quote
HutchFan Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, Pim said: You as our one and only Hutchfan should buy it without hesitation have to say I bought my TP also because I did not own the music yet. They say ‘Passing Ships’ by Andrew Hill will be among the 2021 releases but I dont think I am going to get it because I already have the Conaisseur edition. And for a replacement of something I already have they really are too expensive. Plus there’s so much music out there that I want to explore. Yes, I agree. It's hard (for me!) to justify buying Oblique a second time when there are so many other new things out there to discover. ... OTOH, I think it's one of Hutcherson's best records. Decisions, decisions, decisions. Quote
Pim Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Yes, I agree. It's hard (for me!) to justify buying Oblique a second time when there are so many other new things out there to discover. ... OTOH, I think it's one of Hutcherson's best records. Decisions, decisions, decisions. Today was my first spin and it’s very, very good indeed. I like it even better than ‘Happenings’ which is also great. Great interplay between Hutcherson and Hancock, and I was also amazed by the excellent bass playing by Albert Stinson. Did not know him very well. Quote
mjzee Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, bresna said: The cover says 81569. If it was mono, there would be no 8. BLP-1569 would be the mono catalog number. That's right; thanks for the reminder. Although I wonder whether it was ever issued in stereo with "Blue Note 81569" on top (and no Blue Note "Finest in Jazz since 1939" logo). Quote
soulpope Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Pim said: Today was my first spin and it’s very, very good indeed. I like it even better than ‘Happenings’ which is also great. Great interplay between Hutcherson and Hancock, and I was also amazed by the excellent bass playing by Albert Stinson. Did not know him very well. Albert Stinson is (unfortunately was) outstanding .... Quote
sidewinder Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 Just spinning ‘Oblique’ and for the first time I hear a bit of wow on Herbie’s piano solo on ‘Till Then’. Hadn’t noticed that before. Otherwise, it sounds stunning. Must run a comparison check against the King GXK. 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: ... OTOH, I think it's one of Hutcherson's best records. It most definitely is - thought that from the first time I heard it. Quote
HutchFan Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 28 minutes ago, sidewinder said: It most definitely is - thought that from the first time I heard it. Yep. Isn't it odd that Oblique was shelved for so long? Recorded in '67 and first released in '79 -- in Japan only. It wasn't released in the U.S. until 1990. That's nuts! Quote
Dub Modal Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Yep. Isn't it odd that Oblique was shelved for so long? Recorded in '67 and first released in '79 -- in Japan only. It wasn't released in the U.S. until 1990. That's nuts! Even those other records he did in the 70s on BN: Waiting Game, Knucklebean, The View From the Inside - none of them got a second domestic pressing until that Mosaic Select...and that didn't come until '07. Quote
HutchFan Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dub Modal said: Even those other records he did in the 70s on BN: Waiting Game, Knucklebean, The View From the Inside - none of them got a second domestic pressing until that Mosaic Select...and that didn't come until '07. True. More crazy! Quote
Dmitry Posted January 5, 2021 Author Report Posted January 5, 2021 2 hours ago, mjzee said: That's right; thanks for the reminder. Although I wonder whether it was ever issued in stereo with "Blue Note 81569" on top (and no Blue Note "Finest in Jazz since 1939" logo). The first time it was release in Stereo was in 1966, after the label was sold to Liberty Records. Some of RVG's early experiments with recording to two track tape don't sound as good as the 1960 and after, largely due to microphone placement. If this is indeed a MONO release, I am tempted. Quote
mjzee Posted January 5, 2021 Report Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Dmitry said: If this is indeed a MONO release, I am tempted. Sadly, there's no mention in the product description. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted January 6, 2021 Report Posted January 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Dmitry said: The first time it was release in Stereo was in 1966, after the label was sold to Liberty Records. Some of RVG's early experiments with recording to two track tape don't sound as good as the 1960 and after, largely due to microphone placement. If this is indeed a MONO release, I am tempted. Rudy didn't run a mono machine once he moved to Englewood Cliffs - all monos after July 1, 1959 are "fold downs" from the stereo master. Quote
Pim Posted January 6, 2021 Report Posted January 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Dub Modal said: Even those other records he did in the 70s on BN: Waiting Game, Knucklebean, The View From the Inside - none of them got a second domestic pressing until that Mosaic Select...and that didn't come until '07. Yup, still looking for that Mosaic for a reasonable price... Quote
soulpope Posted January 6, 2021 Report Posted January 6, 2021 47 minutes ago, Pim said: Yup, still looking for that Mosaic for a reasonable price... 👍 .... Quote
Brad Posted January 6, 2021 Report Posted January 6, 2021 Someone posted in Hoffman that, based on Instagram postings, the following would be the TPs for this year. Dexter Gordon - One Flight Up Login • Instagram Andrew Hill - Passing Ships Login • Instagram Curtis Amy & Dupree Bolton - Katanga (Pacific Jazz) Login • Instagram Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - The Witch Doctor Login • Instagram Wayne Shorter - All Seeing Eye Login • Instagram McCoy Tyner - Expansions Login • Instagram Lee Konitz Meets Gerry Mulligan Login • Instagram Stanley Turrentine - Rough n’ Tumble Login • Instagram Sonny Red - Out Of The Blue Login • Instagram Quote
Pim Posted January 6, 2021 Report Posted January 6, 2021 Dexter Gordon’s ‘One Flight Up’ and Andrew Hill’s Passing Ships are up for February. The Hill a double LP. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 6, 2021 Report Posted January 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, Pim said: Dexter Gordon’s ‘One Flight Up’ and Andrew Hill’s Passing Ships are up for February. The Hill a double LP. According to Michael Cuscuna, Andrew Hill's "Passing Ships", an early example of an RVG multi-track recording, was re-mixed/remastered from these multi-track tapes in analog for this LP cut so it could sound quite a bit different from the CD. Quote
Dub Modal Posted January 6, 2021 Report Posted January 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Brad said: Someone posted in Hoffman that, based on Instagram postings, the following would be the TPs for this year. Dexter Gordon - One Flight Up Login • Instagram Andrew Hill - Passing Ships Login • Instagram Curtis Amy & Dupree Bolton - Katanga (Pacific Jazz) Login • Instagram Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - The Witch Doctor Login • Instagram Wayne Shorter - All Seeing Eye Login • Instagram McCoy Tyner - Expansions Login • Instagram Lee Konitz Meets Gerry Mulligan Login • Instagram Stanley Turrentine - Rough n’ Tumble Login • Instagram Sonny Red - Out Of The Blue Login • Instagram Those are some great titles. 9 hours ago, Pim said: Yup, still looking for that Mosaic for a reasonable price... I broke down and got the download via iTunes (Capitol Classics series or something like that, the one that basically puts out the Mosaic sets). Waiting is by far my favorite but the whole thing is full of great stuff. Quote
sidewinder Posted January 6, 2021 Report Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, bresna said: According to Michael Cuscuna, Andrew Hill's "Passing Ships", an early example of an RVG multi-track recording, was re-mixed/remastered from these multi-track tapes in analog for this LP cut so it could sound quite a bit different from the CD. That title will be an immediate buy on vinyl for me (have the Conn CD). As for the rest on the 2021 list, have either originals or very good LP reissues so will ‘pass’. Wish they would do ‘Demons Dance’ ! Edited January 6, 2021 by sidewinder Quote
Brad Posted January 6, 2021 Report Posted January 6, 2021 I have Passing Ships on cd but may opt for the TP. Quote
Brad Posted January 6, 2021 Report Posted January 6, 2021 Passing Ships and One Flight Up are available for pre-order, with a projected release date of February 26. Page One and Something Else from the Classics series are projected to be available on February 12. Quote
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