mjazzg Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Just now, Pim said: I think it’s a Dutch delay Is Juno not an option? Not having any idea of their EU postage rates but their UK rates are very competitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, mjazzg said: Is Juno not an option? Not having any idea of their EU postage rates but their UK rates are very competitive Yeah it probably is, Amazon also of course but with new releases I like to support the local record store here in this small town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Pim said: Yeah it probably is, Amazon also of course but with new releases I like to support the local record store here in this small town Admirable, you're lucky to still have one so it's worth supporting. I'd normally buy mine from Honest Jons for the same reason but I found something else very cheap on Juno and just had to add Jackie to the order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, mjazzg said: Admirable, you're lucky to still have one so it's worth supporting. I'd normally buy mine from Honest Jons for the same reason but I found something else very cheap on Juno and just had to add Jackie to the order Yeah I am very happy with it. Run by some real vinyl heads. Heemskerk is a town with about 40.000 residents. There used to be around 4 record stores in the area (including nearest towns) when I grew up in the ‘90’s. Then from 2005 there wasn’t even one anyonore. When this record store opened in 2016 I felt so happy  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 Hmmm ... seems I bought copies of the Hutcherson and the McLean from both Dusty Groove and Acoustic Sounds.  I’ll sell them both at my cost - and throw in shipping to you.  PM me if you are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/29/2020 at 9:53 PM, Eric said: Hmmm ... seems I bought copies of the Hutcherson and the McLean from both Dusty Groove and Acoustic Sounds.  I’ll sell them both at my cost - and throw in shipping to you.  PM me if you are interested. Up - please PM if interested.  Received copes from Acoustic Sounds - will take the box from DG, slap your address on it and sent it your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted December 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 How do these generally stack up against the Music Matters releases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 9 hours ago, Dmitry said: How do these generally stack up against the Music Matters releases? Cut by the same guy using the same tools. Pressed at the same plant. Covers designed/curated by the same team. These are basically "Music Matters by Blue Note". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted December 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited)  I've got a few of those Music Matters 45 RPM albums, still sealed. It was an impulse buy. I was thinking maybe it's time to sell. I checked eBay, and some of them sell for a lot of money, especially the ones on SRX vinyl, of which I only just found out about it yesterday.  It's hard to imagine that after decades there are still developments in vinyl composition that surpass the existing formulas, but I could be just talking nonsense, and the SRX vinyl is amazing. Edited December 2, 2020 by Dmitry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 7 hours ago, Dmitry said:  I've got a few of those Music Matters 45 RPM albums, still sealed. It was an impulse buy. I was thinking maybe it's time to sell. I checked eBay, and some of them sell for a lot of money, especially the ones on SRX vinyl, of which I only just found out about it yesterday.  It's hard to imagine that after decades there are still developments in vinyl composition that surpass the existing formulas, but I could be just talking nonsense, and the SRX vinyl is amazing. I didn't think they made any 45 RPM LPs on SRX vinyl... I only know of 33 RPM records pressed with SRX vinyl. I didn't buy any of those SRX LPs. $80 each? And a few of the titles required you to buy the whole set to get them? No way. I'll "suffer" with my CDs at that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Yes, I don’t think the Music Matters 2x45s were SRX. In my experience, they got even better as the series matured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 15 hours ago, sidewinder said: Yes, I don’t think the Music Matters 2x45s were SRX. In my experience, they got even better as the series matured. There was a change in the mastering team as the series went on. I wonder if you were hearing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted December 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 I've been out of the loop with the Music Matters. They are charging $75 +s/h for 33 1/3 rpm LPs now?! That is ...a lot. Otoh, the JRVGs used to be $27.99 20 years ago. Edit: what is their price structure based on? The 45rpm LPs are priced from $39.95 to $99.95.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, bresna said: There was a change in the mastering team as the series went on. I wonder if you were hearing that? If I recall, they fine tuned their technique as the series went on. The early ones were fine though. 19 minutes ago, Dmitry said: I've been out of the loop with the Music Matters. They are charging $75 +s/h for 33 1/3 rpm LPs now?! That is ...a lot. Otoh, the JRVGs used to be $27.99 20 years ago. Edit: what is their price structure based on? The 45rpm LPs are priced from $39.95 to $99.95.   They introduced a new demand-driven pricing model sometime back, I believe, for the 45rpms which are still in stock. Edited December 3, 2020 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, sidewinder said: If I recall, they fine tuned their technique as the series went on. The early ones were fine though. They also dropped SH from the deadwax about halfway through the 45 RPM series, which is what I meant. Others have noted a shift as well, so you are not alone. Myself, I refused to buy any 45 RPM LPs. 10 minutes a side for minimal (if any) sound improvement? Nope. Give me 33 RPM or I'll stick with CDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted December 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, bresna said: They also dropped SH from the deadwax about halfway through the 45 RPM series, which is what I meant. Others have noted a shift as well, so you are not alone. Myself, I refused to buy any 45 RPM LPs. 10 minutes a side for minimal (if any) sound improvement? Nope. Give me 33 RPM or I'll stick with CDs. Well, at least in theory, the 45 RMP 12" LP will sound noticeably superior to a 33 1/3 rpm. This is a good explanation why: https://www.classic45s.com/why45s/45sound.html I'm with you on the changing sides every 7 to 10 minutes, though. I'm sitting on 30 of the unopened ones...an impulse buy, as I confessed above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, Dmitry said: I'm sitting on 30 of the unopened ones Well, these things are increasing in market value like crazy. Not sure how long that'll last, as I do think the Tone Poets will cut into the margins a bit with similar titles. But some of the more hyped up titles will probably climb higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 39 minutes ago, bresna said: Myself, I refused to buy any 45 RPM LPs. 10 minutes a side for minimal (if any) sound improvement? Nope. Give me 33 RPM or I'll stick with CDs. Play them? They need to be left on display in their Holy Shrine and given votive offerings daily... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, sidewinder said: Play them? They need to be left on display in their Holy Shrine and given votive offerings daily... I buy records to play them. The people that buy & sell sealed records always crack me up. They have no idea what they're buying but even better, they never even find out... they just re-sell to someone else to find out. I've been buying records a long time and you never know what's inside that record sleeve until to open it. Underfill, center hole offset, the wrong record, warps, pressing defects, etc. All just waiting for that buyer to find. Ha ha ha. There was that one time I bought a sealed Prestige LP and when I opened it, I found an LP with bits of ground up label embedded in the playing area. Yeah, they were audible. And I have to amend what I just said to make it clear that I am NOT talking about you here Dmitry! I understand where you're coming from. I'm talking about the people who buy sealed records as an investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted December 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 I ordered this lot of about 3 dozen from Music Matters when I was under the influence...of the Hoffman Forum. I did play 6 or 7 of them, and they sounded remarkable. The rest stayed sealed in their shipping boxes and I forgot about them; we were fixing our house then...that was 9 years ago. I can't believe I've had them this long! You are right about the unpredictability factor - some are possibly buggered enough for the particularly anal buyer to raise a shit storm. Just pulled them out. On Side A I'm itching to open and play them, on Side B, I am sure the PITA level will creep up rather fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dmitry said: I ordered this lot of about 3 dozen from Music Matters when I was under the influence...of the Hoffman Forum. I did play 6 or 7 of them, and they sounded remarkable. The rest stayed sealed in their shipping boxes and I forgot about them; we were fixing our house then...that was 9 years ago. I can't believe I've had them this long! You are right about the unpredictability factor - some are possibly buggered enough for the particularly anal buyer to raise a shit storm. Just pulled them out. On Side A I'm itching to open and play them, on Side B, I am sure the PITA level will creep up rather fast. You could probably offer to trade straight-up for their 33 RPM counterpart for many of the harder-to-find titles and find some takers on the Hoffman forums. And if you do decide to sell, go to the Hoffman forums' WTB area. I was just there the other day and someone was offering $150 for a couple 45 RPM Music matters Blue Notes. If you do swap for the 33 RPM version, see if there is an SRX version and ask for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted December 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Thanks, I'll check out the Hoffman. Meanwhile, which retailer has the best deal going on the Tone Poets? It's the sale season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 Listening to Hutcherson’s Oblique now. I have to admit: again the sound is superb. Incredible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 I purchased several TPS when BN had their sale in December. I listened to Minor Move last night and the sound is pretty amazing, better than the cd I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 Just now, Brad said: I purchased several TPS when BN had their sale in December. I listened to Minor Move last night and the sound is pretty amazing, better than the cd I have. Yeah I was a bit sceptical at first but I must admit they are pretty great. But the 40 euro price here in the Netherlands is still a bit over the top. According to someone on the Hoffman board, the 2021 releases will we announced tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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