David Ayers Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, jazzbo said: Just to play devil's advocate, do you "literally" have the one previously unissued track in this set, the alternate take of "Me 'n You"? Unkind. I predict FOMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, jazzbo said: Just to play devil's advocate, do you "literally" have the one previously unissued track in this set, the alternate take of "Me 'n You"? Ha! More specifically, I have every one of these albums on CD, including the 2012 TOCJ Japanese reissue of Third Season -- the one with the alternate of "Don't Cry, Just Sigh" (and the only release with that alternate) -- which I'm pretty sure is the only rare track on this new Mosaic, and the only one that's 'sorta new' (since it's only been released once, on just that one Japanese reissue). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 Yeah, I have them all too. I had the American copies, now I have Japanese copies where available. And I ordered this set. Great music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, jazzbo said: Yeah, I have them all too. I had the American copies, now I have Japanese copies where available. And I ordered this set. Great music. Part of it for me *is space* just as much as the outlay of cash for this new set. I've got too damn many CD's as it is, and I really can't justify having two physical copies of that many CD's with the exact same material. Our 1BR, 630 sq-ft apartment is overflowing with too much stuff as it is now. If I got this new Mosaic, I'd really need to get rid of 75% of the individual CD's of that same set -- but in all honesty, I really prefer individual CD's when given the option (because of having the original cover art, and not having albums/original-sessions split across two physical discs). I took the plunge on the Bee Hive box in support of Mosaic, even though I really only was super-interested in about 30% of it. No regrets at all with the Bee Hive, but harder to justify when there isn't even 5 minutes of previously unreleased material (which isn't a complaint about the new Hank set, but it is what it is). May be the same with the Lee Morgan box for me too, we'll see. If they manage to find 6 or 8 previously unreleased tracks (like the rest of that 13-Sept-1968 session, plus a few other alternates here and there), then I might take the plunge for the Lee Morgan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 I wonder why the alt of Me ‘n’ You didn’t make it to the UCCQ SHM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said: Part of it for me *is space* just as much as the outlay of cash for this new set. I've got too damn many CD's as it is, and I really can't justify having two physical copies of that many CD's with the exact same material. Our 1BR, 630 sq-ft apartment is overflowing with too much stuff as it is now. If I got this new Mosaic, I'd really need to get rid of 75% of the individual CD's of that same set -- but in all honesty, I really prefer individual CD's when given the option (because of having the original cover art, and not having albums/original-sessions split across two physical discs). I took the plunge on the Bee Hive box in support of Mosaic, even though I really only was super-interested in about 30% of it. No regrets at all with the Bee Hive, but harder to justify when there isn't even 5 minutes of previously unreleased material (which isn't a complaint about the new Hank set, but it is what it is). May be the same with the Lee Morgan box for me too, we'll see. If they manage to find 6 or 8 previously unreleased tracks (like the rest of that 13-Sept-1968 session, plus a few other alternates here and there), then I might take the plunge for the Lee Morgan. You don't have to explain it to me. I admire your will power and plan. I too have serious space issues, and I don't care that much about cover art etc. so I may part with the Japanese cd copies I have if I really do like the mastering of this Mosaic set. I've begun downsizing and in fact have sold over 500 discs so far this year, a drop in the bucket, but a start. I'll have to see what the Morgan set brings. . . . I actually like the Morgan material a bit less than the Mobley so it's possible I may skip that set. . . . Ah, probably not seeing how I am, again I'll have other discs to sell if I prefer the mastering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 In addition to the individual BN CD's, I own the McLean Mosaic for one album, the Mosaic Thad Jones for one album, the Mosaic Stanley Turrentine for one album, the Mosaic Elvin Jones for two albums, and the Mosaic Lou Donaldson for two or three albums, so I get it to that degree. Hoping the Japanese will eventually enable me to pick up the individual titles and pass these boxes along. I know Don Was isn't gonna come to my rescue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbbfam Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) Just got a shipping notice for Hank Box. Edited December 19, 2019 by hbbfam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 They charged my card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 hours ago, mjzee said: They charged my card. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 I also got a shipping notice. They are busy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 19 hours ago, felser said: Hoping the Japanese will eventually enable me to pick up the individual titles and pass these boxes along. Something tells me that even if you got the individual disks you’d keep the box sets. But what do I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, David Ayers said: Something tells me that even if you got the individual disks you’d keep the box sets. But what do I know? Absolutely would not keep the boxes, have sold many through the years as I was able to replace them with individual CD's. I'm not a fan of the Mosaic format, and have meaningful but finite space for my collection, and meaningful but finite money to tie up in it! Edited December 17, 2019 by felser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, felser said: Absolutely would not keep the boxes, have sold many through the years as I was able to replace them with individual CD's. I'm not a fan of the Mosaic format, and have meaningful but finite space for my collection, and meaningful but finite money to tie up in it! I hear you. Re. Mobley, I rather wish I’d kept my first issue CDs of No Room for Squares and The Turnaround, which put the sessions back together. Though not in session order. Anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 The sequencing in this set makes no sense, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, David Ayers said: The sequencing in this set makes no sense, by the way. Are you talking about it being in session order for the first 3 sessions or are you talking about the order of the tracks within each of these first 3 sessions? I would think that after all the crap Michael Cuscuna got from the re-sequencing of "No Room For Squares", "The Turnaround" & "Straight No Filter" that putting them out in straight recording order takes that all away. In that regard, it makes sense to me. Edited December 18, 2019 by bresna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 I got those three CDs when they came out and have never played them as is. I rearranged them in the order in which they were recorded, on two CDs. There were reasons for the track lineups on the original LPs, but today we have no need to adhere to them. I much prefer to hear tracks by the same guys gathered together. In case anyone doesn't know, Michael Cuscuna got a lot of flak when, in the early CD days, he put the alternate takes together, rather than sticking them at the ends of CDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 The copy of the Mobley set that I ordered for WFIU's station library just landed, but I'm not going to have time to look at it till later in the afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Still got those 3 original CDs and will spin them over the break as a precursor to getting the Mosaic ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Call me weak but despite having around 90% of this already I preordered the set. Firstly for high love of Hank, second to get the all the music and finally to support Mosaic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Not weak at all - those are all excellent reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, bresna said: Are you talking about it being in session order for the first 3 sessions or are you talking about the order of the tracks within each of these first 3 sessions? I would think that after all the crap Michael Cuscuna got from the re-sequencing of "No Room For Squares", "The Turnaround" & "Straight No Filter" that putting them out in straight recording order takes that all away. In that regard, it makes sense to me. They aren’t in session order within each session! Edited December 18, 2019 by David Ayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 This discussion of these three CDs prompted me to get my 2CD transfer of the material into recording order. Like (I guess) many here, I played them when I got them and then they got forgotten, with all the stuff that's come out since then. Naturally, I jumped first to "Me 'N' You", which is being treated to a new take. It is "Sidewinder #7", a pleasant track. It kinda masks Philly Joe, and I couldn't wait to go to the tracks where he plays normally. Anyway, everything I had time for today sounded great all round. It was good to hear Hank on these sessions again: he was in great form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 The remastering there is about 75% RVG and 25% McMaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Shrdlu said: The remastering there is about 75% RVG and 25% McMaster. Transfers or mastering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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