clifford_thornton Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 Looks like the Dutch trumpeter Boy Raaijmakers (Raaymakers) has left us as well -- stalwart of the Willem Breuker Kollektief as well as a number of other groups from the mid-'60s forward. Always enjoyed his playing on record, though I never got to see him in person. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Raaymakers from what I gather, a memorial was held in Amsterdam yesterday. Quote
corto maltese Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 A short obituary notice was published in Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant on January 3, without mentioning the date of his passing. He was indeed a long-standing member of the WBK. Before joining Willem Breuker, he played a lot with composer-musician-visual artist Peter van der Locht (they were both in Pierre Courbois' Free Music Quartet/Quintet). Raaijmakers and van der Locht had a short-lived band called "Group-Music" or "Group-Music International" with drummer Noel McGhie. They recorded a great abum in 1970 on which pianist Burton Greene also plays. The album's called "At Different Times"; it's a private pressing, unfortunately never reissued. I will play that record tonight in honour of Mr. Raaijmakers. Quote
Steve Reynolds Posted January 7, 2019 Report Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said: Looks like the Dutch trumpeter Boy Raaijmakers (Raaymakers) has left us as well -- stalwart of the Willem Breuker Kollektief as well as a number of other groups from the mid-'60s forward. Always enjoyed his playing on record, though I never got to see him in person. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Raaymakers from what I gather, a memorial was held in Amsterdam yesterday. Blessed to see the band in the late 90’s @ Tonic Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 7, 2019 Author Report Posted January 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, corto maltese said: A short obituary notice was published in Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant on January 3, without mentioning the date of his passing. He was indeed a long-standing member of the WBK. Before joining Willem Breuker, he played a lot with composer-musician-visual artist Peter van der Locht (they were both in Pierre Courbois' Free Music Quartet/Quintet). Raaijmakers and van der Locht had a short-lived band called "Group-Music" or "Group-Music International" with drummer Noel McGhie. They recorded a great abum in 1970 on which pianist Burton Greene also plays. The album's called "At Different Times"; it's a private pressing, unfortunately never reissued. I will play that record tonight in honour of Mr. Raaijmakers. yeah, that record smokes -- I have a copy as well. Quote
T.D. Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 RIP. I wonder if he was related to the Dutch electronic music composer (among other things) Dick_Raaymakers . Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, T.D. said: RIP. I wonder if he was related to the Dutch electronic music composer (among other things) Dick_Raaymakers . It seems we stood and talked like this before... Edited January 8, 2019 by Teasing the Korean Quote
T.D. Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 Yeah, while I was typing I got an alert that you had replied, but didn't bother to read it. I can't see a way to delete my post. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, T.D. said: Yeah, while I was typing I got an alert that you had replied, but didn't bother to read it. I can't see a way to delete my post. On the contrary, great minds! Quote
king ubu Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 Sad to hear this ... got that Breuker retrospective last year and am enjoying it a lot, including Raaymakers' contributions. (Usual spelling seems to be Raaymakers, not sure there are variants in dutch, but don't think so.) Quote
Caravan Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: Any relation to Dick? No Quote
corto maltese Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, king ubu said: Sad to hear this ... got that Breuker retrospective last year and am enjoying it a lot, including Raaymakers' contributions. (Usual spelling seems to be Raaymakers, not sure there are variants in dutch, but don't think so.) It's Raaijmakers, quite a common name in the Netherlands. "Raaymakers" (his artist's name) was for international use. Edited January 8, 2019 by corto maltese Quote
king ubu Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, corto maltese said: Its Raaijmakers, quite a common name in the Netherlands. "Raaymakers" (his artist's name) was for international use. Oh, I understand - weird, don't think I ever noticed the proper spelling (and I'm all for ignunts learning foreign names and not dumbing it down too much ... we're not talking Chinese names or anything)! So is it Leo Cuijpers, too? Does the "y" not exist in dutch names at all or are both variants possibley, what about Martin Van Duynhoven? (And for Piet Nordijk it's clear, never saw that with a "y") Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, king ubu said: Oh, I understand - weird, don't think I ever noticed the proper spelling (and I'm all for ignunts learning foreign names and not dumbing it down too much ... we're not talking Chinese names or anything)! So is it Leo Cuijpers, too? Does the "y" not exist in dutch names at all or are both variants possibley, what about Martin Van Duynhoven? (And for Piet Nordijk it's clear, never saw that with a "y") Y and ij both exist in Dutch, though the Dutch variant ij is more common. By the way, it's Noordijk with double o and Cuijpers with ij, and Van Duynhoven is indeed spelt with a y. And the late footballer's name is Cruijff Edited January 8, 2019 by J.A.W. Quote
king ubu Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 Thanks, good to know! (Cuypers is the way his name is usually spelt though - but I guess that's the same as with Raaymakers then) And sorry about misspelling Noordijk's name - I should know! Quote
corto maltese Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, king ubu said: Thanks, good to know! (Cuypers is the way his name is usually spelt though - but I guess that's the same as with Raaymakers then) And sorry about misspelling Noordijk's name - I should know! Actually, I think Leo's name was really Cuypers, which would strongly suggest his family roots were in Flanders (Dutch speaking part of Belgium). Cuypers is a typical Flemish name, while the most common Dutch variants are Kuipers or Kuiper, like guitarist Jan Kuiper. Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, corto maltese said: Actually, I think Leo's name was really Cuypers, which would strongly suggest his family roots were in Flanders (Dutch speaking part of Belgium). Cuypers is a typical Flemish name, while the most common Dutch variants are Kuipers or Kuiper, like guitarist Jan Kuiper. You're absolutely right, it's Cuypers. My mistake, I checked the wrong site. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted January 8, 2019 Report Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, corto maltese said: It's Raaijmakers, quite a common name in the Netherlands. "Raaymakers" (his artist's name) was for international use. And one of the Tom Dissevelt/Kid Baltan tracks when released in the U.S. was given the very sci-fi title "The Ray Makers." It was a very fortuitous last name for an electronic music pioneer. Dick Raaijmakers left us in 2013. RIP. Quote
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