Rooster_Ties Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) (This thread started as a sort of mystery tune I heard, and recognized -- and tried to have folks here guess where else I knew it from, but under a different name. Then it turns out it's been recorded a bunch by Dyani.) OK, join me -- if you will -- on a journey I just took over the last 24 hours, figuring out where in the heck I could have heard this tune before (hint, the version I know -- which I suspect a bunch of people here probably own -- *does NOT have the same title*). Here's the tune... Edited September 22, 2018 by Rooster_Ties Quote
mjazzg Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 I don't know the answer but I do know that that compilation is a treasure trove Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted September 21, 2018 Author Report Posted September 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, mjazzg said: I don't know the answer but I do know that that compilation is a treasure trove Do you happen to have a physical copy? (On CD?) I've been looking for *Vol 7* specifically (on CD) for about 6 months, and I'm not 100% convinced it ever really came out. I've already got vols 1-6, and vol 8 too -- all fantastic. Just don't want to miss out on vol 7, before they become even more impossible to find than they are now (apparently). Quote
sonnymax Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 Makulu-Kalahari by Johnny Dyani, appearing on Johnny Dyani/Mal Waldron Some Jive Ass Boer, Live at Jazz Unité 1981 Quote
ep1str0phy Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 This tune appears a lot throughout Dyani's discography--this version and the version on Together (which features Dudu Pukwana) came to mind first. The piece is credited to Dyani on both albums, fwiw. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted September 21, 2018 Author Report Posted September 21, 2018 Wow, not one -- but that's *TWO* different versions of the tune I wasn't aware of! Where *I* figured out I knew it from -- under a different title -- was as this LONG bonus track from Dyani's Song For Biko, where it's called "Lonely Flower in the Village" (the only version of the tune I'd ever heard before). It's a 21 minute bonus track from this date with Don Cherry, but honestly -- I've always thought it was the best track on the whole CD!! (and the whole CD is really great). (Anyway, I was glad I was able to figure it out, even though the titles were totally different.) Quote
ep1str0phy Posted September 21, 2018 Report Posted September 21, 2018 Wow, that's a huge one that I forgot about--I knew there was at least one more version with Dudu. Thanks for the journey. For the longest time I'd just thought of this tune as a kind of leitmotif stringing itself across Dyani's discography--I'd never really connected the dots before. FWIW I know a few bass players who swear by the Song for Biko version. I don't know if it was omitted for time or what, but it's a really heavy performance--both energy-wise and in a literal sense, in that the bass is so forward and dominant. The hookup with Ntshoko in interesting in that Dyani seems to be the anchor point; though I wouldn't necessarily call Ntshoko a light drummer, he's not allergic to either eliding the beat or spreading the time--and the cymbal-dominant afro-latin feel on this particular performance changes the shape of the groove a ton. It's an interesting point of comparison with the more-or-less contemporaneous Blue Notes performances, since Louis Moholo-Moholo is a lot more unpredictable. Sometimes, as on Blue Notes for Mongezi, Moholo-Moholo is content to let a minimalist beat ride, and Dyani's tempo/meter/groove shifts dictate the flow of the rhythm. There's also a live recording from '79 called Before the Wind Changes on which "I Wish You Sunshine" appears, and it's kind of disarming just how different the tune feels with Moholo-Moholo's obstinate pseudo-martial cadence underpinning the form. Elsewhere, as on Blue Notes in Concert, Moholo-Moholo's drumming is pure maverick abstraction--full of aggressive double-time and chaotic expansion/contraction of the beat--and (as on "Lonely Flower") it's Dyani who is providing a sense of stasis and cohesion. This isn't the sample (below) I would have chosen (can't find the album's version of "Now," which is really fucked up in the best possible way), but it goes a long way toward demonstrating just how liquid that band was--in and out of grooves, tonality, etc. with maximum freedom. The Song for Biko band is almost there--and that album has a ton of really beautiful features and compositions, no question--but it's lacking the mercurial, often contrarian push-and-pull that underpins the Blue Notes. I think it goes unnoticed that both Dyani and Moholo-Moholo were both exceptional time players and surpassing free improvisers--Dyani playing this wild post-prog stuff with Witchdoctor's Son, Moholo-Moholo participating in some wild art rock/prog in the cohort of Keith Tippett and Julie Tippetts--and still getting sampled for the intro to "Telephone Girl," etc. etc. The breadth of those guys was unreal. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted September 21, 2018 Author Report Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) OK, so here's the PRIZE --(which is just auditory)-- though not as easy as an embedded YouTube video. Go here... https://johnnymbizodyani.bandcamp.com/track/kalahari Then click the big (graphical) "play" button (just the individual track "Kalahari") -- and the entire track will play (all nearly 10 minutes of it). It's from this double-CD (cover below), which I also just discovered yesterday (actually, I already had it in my 'want list' on the Dusty Groove site - but hadn't ever decided whether to actually get it or not). Whole album (double CD) info here, which will also let you listen to all the tracks. (Full-length play too, not just samples -- but you have to select each track, one by one, and then hit play): https://johnnymbizodyani.bandcamp.com/album/rejoice-together ANYWAY -- please, please, please listen to this heavy-duty ELECTRIC GUITAR version(!!) of this very same tune!! Honestly, I got major goosebumps listening to it for the first time last night. What a MONSTER track!!! Here's the album cover for the 2CD set... Edited September 22, 2018 by Rooster_Ties Quote
soulpope Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 10 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said: 👍👍👍!!! Quote
mjazzg Posted September 22, 2018 Report Posted September 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said: Do you happen to have a physical copy? (On CD?) No, I have it on vinyl (or my friend who I lent it to has, reminder to get it back) Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted August 8, 2020 Author Report Posted August 8, 2020 The infamous and searing 'Electric Guitar' version of "Kalahari" that I mentioned a couple posts above, is now on YouTube (wasn't before). Here 'tis! Does this ever smoke!! Quote
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