John Tapscott Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 Thanks to BillF for the reminder. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 This reeks of a flower-power era pressing (that doesn't exactly hint at the contents from a mile away.) My copy (Macmillan 1966) has a much more sober jacket. Quote
BillF Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 37 minutes ago, Big Beat Steve said: This reeks of a flower-power era pressing (that doesn't exactly hint at the contents from a mile away.) My copy (Macmillan 1966) has a much more sober jacket. Yes, this is more the style. The other would be OK for Jazz Masters of the 70s perhaps. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 Exactly - on both counts: The cover you showed is the one I have too, and an OK dust jacket for "masters of the 70s". But here it would be a turnoff. Just like with many record sleeves, this makes you wonder what the "art"work people were thinking in those stylistically garish 70s. Would it really have been that daring in the publishing business in those 70s to play the retro card at least to some extent in such cases and use a jacket a bit more in tune (literally ) with the contents? Quote
John Tapscott Posted March 9, 2022 Report Posted March 9, 2022 Whatever the cover, it's still a great book. Quote
JSngry Posted March 9, 2022 Report Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, John Tapscott said: Whatever the cover, it's still a great book. This. Quote
BillF Posted March 9, 2022 Report Posted March 9, 2022 8 hours ago, John Tapscott said: Whatever the cover, it's still a great book. Agreed. Quote
Gheorghe Posted March 10, 2022 Report Posted March 10, 2022 On 8.3.2022 at 3:34 PM, John Tapscott said: Thanks to BillF for the reminder. I also have it with this cover. I think I bought it in the late 70´s in Basel/Switzerland. Since during that time there were not many individual biographies about leading jazz artists of the 40´s (I already had the two Bird books , the one by Reisner and the one by Russell with the fictive essays about a night in Brussel and with Dean Benedetti), but I think other books still were not written. I think Diz´ book "To be or not to bop" came out a little later...., there was still no book about Bud . The Ira Gitler book was the first one that gave infos about Bud´s return to Birdland and his last performances at Carnegie Hall and Town Hall and was written when Bud was still alive. Quote
Brad Posted March 10, 2022 Report Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 9:34 AM, John Tapscott said: Thanks to BillF for the reminder. I have this one too and just cracked it open. Quote
BillF Posted March 17, 2022 Report Posted March 17, 2022 Heart-rending chapter on Frank Rosolino. Quote
Gheorghe Posted March 19, 2022 Report Posted March 19, 2022 On 17.3.2022 at 7:15 PM, BillF said: Heart-rending chapter on Frank Rosolino. What other musicians are included. Quote
BillF Posted March 19, 2022 Report Posted March 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, Gheorghe said: What other musicians are included. Chapters on Duke, Artie Shaw, Woody Herman, John Heard, Bill Evans, Billy Taylor, Art Farmer and Paul Desmond. Quote
sidewinder Posted March 19, 2022 Report Posted March 19, 2022 Interesting read - lots of obvious choices, some less than obvious. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted March 19, 2022 Report Posted March 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, sidewinder said: Interesting read - lots of obvious choices, some less than obvious. It was available from Jazzwise's website for a while. I thought it was a good list overall. Quote
sidewinder Posted March 19, 2022 Report Posted March 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Rabshakeh said: It was available from Jazzwise's website for a while. I thought it was a good list overall. I remember that from the website. Don’t recall some of the more obscure choices though and there is more content in the book from the short writeups I remember online. Quote
Gheorghe Posted March 21, 2022 Report Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) On 19.3.2022 at 9:02 AM, BillF said: Chapters on Duke, Artie Shaw, Woody Herman, John Heard, Bill Evans, Billy Taylor, Art Farmer and Paul Desmond. John Heard the bass player ? Saw him with Dexter in March 1980. It seems he was a shorter repacement between Reid and Eubanks. But he was the best, he drove the band. Art Farmer had his home in Vienna and lived here when he was not touring. And he would play every year two or three times at Jazzland for some nights. So I can´t count the nights I saw him. Once, Max Roach came by. Saw Woody with a fantastic Herd in 1979 and with an Allstar Octet in 85. The others are a bit before my time. With Billy Taylor I had the wrong start. I had confused him with Cecil Taylor and had a Bellaphone 2 LP album "Echoes of and Era" with Tatum, Erroll, Bud, Taylor each on one side. After Side C with Bud I thought now there must be something new for me, placed the needle and close my eyes to concentrate on my first "Cecil Taylor Experience" and was disappointed when I heard some more conservative mainstream piano....., Heard some Billy Taylor again on a Philips LP "Charlie Parker Memorial Concert" with Diz, Roy, Hawk, and again there was Billy Taylor....but he played such a strange piano, sometimes trying to play fugues or how you call that Bach Style....., I had wondered why they had chosen Billy Taylor instead of a piano player who recorded with Bird (Bud who still lived, or Bishop or Haig) ..... With Desmond I also had a wrong start: When I started to become a jazz fan, someone told me I must get a Brubeck album because he is the greatest....., I borrowed one and thought well if he is the greatest, might he top Miles or Mingus (the only jazz I knew then), and he did not....., and above all, my mother (born 1921) who had listened to "Meditations on Integration" (Mingus) and said it is fantastic, and how fell in love with Ornette Coleman´s "Lonely Woman" ...... well she came in my boy´s room for I don´t know what, and by the way heard that Brubeck, I think it was Blue Rondo a la Turk and said "oh no, what´s that KITSCH you listenin´ to !!!!???. Never spinned it again..... Edited March 21, 2022 by Gheorghe Quote
GA Russell Posted March 21, 2022 Report Posted March 21, 2022 Vince Guaraldi at the Piano by Derrick Bang https://www.amazon.com/Vince-Guaraldi-Piano-Derrick-Bang/dp/0786459026/ Quote
medjuck Posted March 22, 2022 Report Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, sgcim said: Lightening Striking by Lenny Kaye Me too. Quote
Bluesnik Posted March 23, 2022 Report Posted March 23, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 3:34 PM, John Tapscott said: Thanks to BillF for the reminder. Have not read it. But now it's on my searchlist. Quote
Gheorghe Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Bluesnik said: Have not read it. But now it's on my searchlist. You will like it. I like ist very much, because it is first hand information. Ira Gitler saw them all live, all of them and the book was writtten, when many of them (with the exception of Bird and Fats) still lived and performed. Even Bud was still alive and performed when the book came out for the first time (mid sixties). Edited March 24, 2022 by Gheorghe Quote
BillF Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 44 minutes ago, Gheorghe said: You will like it. I like ist very much, because it is first hand information. Ira Gitler saw them all live, all of them and the book was writtten, when many of them (with the exception of Bird and Fats) still lived and performed. Even Bud was still alive and performed when the book came out for the first time (mid sixties). Yes, those who saw them are now a shrinking bunch. Can't claim to have seen Bird, Bud or Fats, but did see Diz, Monk, Max, Klook, Dex, Stitt, Haig, Albany, Bishop and McKibbon. Quote
Gheorghe Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, BillF said: Yes, those who saw them are now a shrinking bunch. Can't claim to have seen Bird, Bud or Fats, but did see Diz, Monk, Max, Klook, Dex, Stitt, Haig, Albany, Bishop and McKibbon. Yes, Bud didn´t tour the UK. I heard that many fans from UK traveled to Paris to hear him. The british author Alan Shipton who wrote a book about Bud had gone to Paris to see him live. Too bad that my parents were not jazz fans. In the summer of 1964 we were on holiday in the Italian Riviera and made also a trip in France. During exactly that time Bud had played in Edenville on the French beach. Sometimes I "dream" my parents would have gone there and I would have heard him, since this was no night club, it was open air in the garden of a restaurant. From the surviving Bop stars who were key figures in Ira Gitler´s book, I saw Diz, Kai Winding, Sonny Stitt, Dex, Max Roach, Roy Haynes to mention some.... Quote
BillF Posted March 24, 2022 Report Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Gheorghe said: Yes, Bud didn´t tour the UK. I heard that many fans from UK traveled to Paris to hear him. The british author Alan Shipton who wrote a book about Bud had gone to Paris to see him live. Too bad that my parents were not jazz fans. In the summer of 1964 we were on holiday in the Italian Riviera and made also a trip in France. During exactly that time Bud had played in Edenville on the French beach. Sometimes I "dream" my parents would have gone there and I would have heard him, since this was no night club, it was open air in the garden of a restaurant. From the surviving Bop stars who were key figures in Ira Gitler´s book, I saw Diz, Kai Winding, Sonny Stitt, Dex, Max Roach, Roy Haynes to mention some.... Yes, I didn't make the trip to Paris to hear Bud, as did some of my friends. Someone who told me he'd heard Bud in Paris was none other than Joe Harriott! (He also said he'd never heard Bird live. "Just the records, man".) Edited March 24, 2022 by BillF Quote
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