Why didn't Wayne Shorter save "Footprints" for a Blue Note album

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

Do you it would of been better if he should of not given it to Miles & Columbia and instead saved it for his next solo album.  Or does it need tony williams to work, or could it work with Elvin

[Big Beat Steve]

"Have" is a word that you like to avoid like the plague, innit??

[Kevin Bresnahan]

28 minutes ago, Big Beat Steve said:

"Have" is a word that you like to avoid like the plague, innit??

Common problem with contractions... the "'ve" contraction has somehow morphed into "of", so "should've" gets typed up as "should of". I've been seeing this more and more these days. Drives me crazy too.

[JSngry]

Not sure I understand the question?

He did it on Adam's Apple, which was recorded 7-8 months before Miles Smiles.

Miles Smiles was released first, but Wayne had nothing to do with that.

Edited July 30, 2018 by JSngry
edited for clarity

[erwbol]

4 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Not sure I understand the question?

He did it on Adam's Apple, which was 7-8 recorded before Miles Smiles.

Miles Smiles was released first, but Wayne had nothing to do with that.

So it wasn't just me. 

[sonnymax]

5 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said:

"Have" is a word that you like to avoid like the plague, innit??

"Think" ranks up there as well. 

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

oh yea, it was on adams apple!

[clifford_thornton]

Adam's Apple is a superb record.

[bertrand]

Footprints was on his mind way before '66. A tune copyrighted in '62 called Boneapart has some elements of Footprints in it.

Bertrand.

[mikeweil]

3 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

Adam's Apple is a superb record.

My thoughts exactly - to me, one of the greatest tenor quartet albums ever. Each tune has a different mood and groove.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

8 hours ago, bertrand said:

Footprints was on his mind way before '66. A tune copyrighted in '62 called Boneapart has some elements of Footprints in it.

Bertrand.

very interesting!

[Joe]

Another question: "Footprints" seemed to very quickly become a standard part of other bands' books. But, outside of Wayne and Miles, who was the first musician to record a version of the tune? This one by Herbie Mann is pretty early, but how early, I wonder...

 

[mikeweil]

The earliest recording after Shorter and Miles could be one by the British Ray Russell Quartet, recorded February 1968, LP "Turn Circle", CBS/Realm 52586.

Next is indeed Herbie Mann.

The Lord Disco next lists a recording by the German group Bop Cats, recorded March or July 1969.

Next was one by Big John Patton, October 1970, that remained unissued till the CD era (Memphis To New York Spirit), George Coleman plays on this one.

Edited August 1, 2018 by mikeweil

[Joe]

10 minutes ago, mikeweil said:

The earliest recording after Shorter and Miles could be one by the British Ray Russell Quartet, recordd February 1968, LP "Turn Circle", CBS/Realm 52586.

Next is indeed Herbie Mann.

The Lord Disco next lists a recording by the German group Bop Cats, recorded March or July 1969.

Next was one by Big John Patton, October 1970, that remained unissued till the CD era (Memphis To New York Spirit), George Coleman plays on this one.

Thanks Mike. Was not familiar with that Ray Russell recording. Nice!

[sidewinder]

‘Turn Circle’ by Ray Russell is still in print on Dutton Vocalion I think. The version of ‘Footprints’ is excellent (as is the whole album).

[Gheorghe]

Adams Apple is a really nice and easy to listen Wayne Shorter album. Like the first tune on the next album "Schizophrenia", that´s some easy to listen Shorter.

I love all his BN albums, but I like very much "All Seeing Eye", harder to listen but really exiting.

[mikeweil]

15 hours ago, sidewinder said:

‘Turn Circle’ by Ray Russell is still in print on Dutton Vocalion I think. The version of ‘Footprints’ is excellent (as is the whole album).

Low stock .....

https://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=CDSML8436