Guy Berger Posted July 10, 2018 Report Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) Hi all, I'm interested in recommendations on this insanely prolific label. I know it's been discussed in the Funny Rat threads but those are challenging to wade through. So far I've picked up: Tim Berne, INSOMNIA And I am definitely planning to pick up the two Chris Lightcap records (DELUXE, EPICENTER) and the Sclavis/Taborn/Rainey album. Any other recommendations? Edited July 10, 2018 by Guy Berger Quote
paul secor Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 Roswell Rudd/ Mark Dresser: Air Walkers Quote
jlhoots Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 Lots of choices. depends what you like - ? Martin Kuchen, ? Marty Ehrlich, ?Kirk Knuffke, Friends & Neighbors, Cortex etc. Quote
Д.Д. Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) A lot of good stuff on this label. I like this one a lot: https://cleanfeed-records.com/product/so-soft-yet/ Edited July 11, 2018 by Д.Д. Quote
king ubu Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 I have been perusing the annual spring sales for several years and have also started following their new releases to some extent, and occasionally stocking up on stuff that didn't yet make the sales (older items still get cheaper after a while). There's tons of fine stuff there, but I would say hardly a true masterpiece. Off the top of the mind, going by artist (and not looking up all the album titles, no time for that right now): Eve Risser, young French pianist whom I like a lot ... she has a solo album that is minimalist and beautiful, a large group that is prob. composed for large parts, includin some solos I'd assume ... or they're "set"), and then there's a piano duo with Kaja Draksler, too Kaja Draksler, another young pianist, from Slovenia ... her solo album is marvelous, her duo with Portuguese trumpet player Susana Santos Silva is beautiful, her octet with two singers is weird but pretty good (saw the group live as well - Ada Rave and Ab Baars on saxes - not too shabby!) Susana Santos Silva, trumpet player from Portugal, she has a recent (early 2018) solo album out that is quite stunning, the duo with Kaja Draksler is wonderful, there are several albums by the group LAMA, two with guest Joachim Badenhorst and one with guest Chris Speed ... she is also on several collaborative albums (one "Life and Other Transient Storms", I also heard live and found it quite amazing), and she guests on the stunning fourth Volume of the "Basement Sessions" Joachim Badenhorst does his stuff himself usually, but his large group, the Carate Urio Orchestra, is wonderful indeed (with Pascal Niggenkemper and Frantz Loriot, some other Clean Feed labelmates are part of the group, which again I heard live in an almost life-chaning concert). Speaking of pianists, there is plenty of Kris Davis on Clean Feed, including a solo album, collaborations with various other musicians, and a pair of mighty good trio albums led by bassist Eric Revis, who again has more on the label. There is also some fine stuff by pianist Angelica Sanchez (actually, having heard the Davis/Sanchez duo at Willisau last summer, there'd be another piano duo album in the making there, but so far we only got some bits on Davis' mighty good "Duopoly", not on Clean Feed). Then, there is Tony Malaby, w/Sanchez, with his band Tamarindo, including a live set w/Wadada Leo Smith, there is also a pretty wonderful duo album by Wadada/Angelica Sanchez ... and there is so much more ... Joe McPhee ("Ticonderoga" by Jamie Saft with McPhee, Morris, Downs may be one of the masterpieces), there's some Brötzmann, some Evan Parker (including a duo with Alexander Hawkins of course, who provided liner notes to the Risser/Draksler duo album, btw), there's a Steve Lacy disc, there's Dennis Gonzalez, there's Gerry Hemingway, there's some BassDrumBone, Ralph Alessi, Nate Wooley, Harris Eisenstad ("Guewel" is big fun) ... and I'm sure once I'll be checking at home, I'll find I forgot plenty of fine ones Quote
Steve Reynolds Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 Not my “go to” label as it's quality & sound are a notch below the true ‘concierge’ labels such as Not Two, Intakt, Ayler, Nessa, Trost & No Business. In the past I’d put Hat ART, Silkheart & even Okkadisc in the premium label category. Clean Feed is kind of like Cunieform in that regard although the British label is much more attuned to self-editing. so I only dabble in their releases as there are so (too?!?!) many but a few of the ones I’ve heard that are close to classic/top notch include some mentioned above and the few mentioned below: Ticonderoga: McPhee is great here as is the quartet - especially great to get a rare hearing of Charles Downs behind the kit John Butcher with The Red Trio: Summer Skyshift. Great to hear the great trio in a blistering set with Butcher in his more agressive & expressive free jazz mode Tamarindo - the first one with Malaby, William Parker & Nasheet Waits - the last one (Somos Agusti) is good as well but neither gets to the core power of the great trio when they hit the groove. Malaby’s Novella is also a good release but don’t expect much roaring tenor - the band is the story here. avoid the Tamarindo with Wadada Leo Smith - the sound is hideous - one wonders if anyone listened to the recording before they released it!!! Parker-Guy-Lytton with Peter Evans: Scenes from the House of Music - greatvsession but the sound doesn’t match what one would hear on Intakt & certainly not the depth of sound that happens on a Not Two release. “Soul Food” from Brotzmann with Edwards & Noble is an example of something NOT to get - again one wonders who is minding the store....way to many other tremendous Peter Brotzmann releases on better labels - I should have taken my own advice hear as well... Quote
Д.Д. Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 I agree, the quality/quantity ratio is probably not the highest. But there is a lot of good stuff nonetheless. And lately their artwork has become really good. Here is one more I enjoy: https://cleanfeed-records.com/product/the-space-between/ Quote
king ubu Posted July 13, 2018 Report Posted July 13, 2018 I'd say the ratio very good, it's the masterpieces that are quite rare, but the pace of good stuff they're churning out is totally nuts ... Quote
Д.Д. Posted July 14, 2018 Report Posted July 14, 2018 I don't disagree, all I've heard is mostly really solid stuff. But enough about this new shit. Let's discuss a Coltrane's rehearsal tape!!!!!!!! Or wish Happy Birthday to somebody who's been dead for 30 years!!!!!! Quote
Steve Reynolds Posted July 14, 2018 Report Posted July 14, 2018 37 minutes ago, Joe said: This is a great record. As is this one. Let me give those another spin. I wasn’t so excited about these recordings when I got them a number of years ago. Maybe I didn’t give them the attention they deserved. What I remember is that this is about when Ellery Eskelin started playing in a much more reserved and traditional manner. Not to the point of playing 2/3rds ballads which is where he was at a few years ago when I last saw his organ trio. 3 hours ago, Д.Д. said: I don't disagree, all I've heard is mostly really solid stuff. But enough about this new shit. Let's discuss a Coltrane's rehearsal tape!!!!!!!! Or wish Happy Birthday to somebody who's been dead for 30 years!!!!!! So glad I’m not the only one who feels this way!! as far as great modern classic recordings, yes only a few I know of on Clean Feed but I know of dozens of incredible releases on other labels over the past 15 or 20 or even 30 years that are not even included in the “so-called” Pantheon of Jazz Classics. When “The Marmalade King” or “Coming Down the Mountain” or “Searching for Adam” or “Blue Winter” or “Captain of the Deep” are heard by more than 2-3 of us here, then maybe there will be some hope of a more rational perspective. Quote
Guy Berger Posted July 14, 2018 Author Report Posted July 14, 2018 You guys are amazing. Thank you. Quote
Guy Berger Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) I went on a somewhat crazy CF binge this week, ordering: Mark Dresser, Nourishments + Sedimental You + Cyber Coup Marty Ehrlich, Frog Leg Logic + Trio Exaltation Dennis Gonzalez, NY Midnight Suite + Idle Wild + Live at Tonic Chris Lightcap, Deluxe + Epicenter Herb Robertson, Elaboration + Real Aberration Steve Lehman, Dual Identity + Manifold Sclavis/Taborn/Rainey, El Dorado Trio Jacob Sacks, Fishes Tony Malaby, Tamarindo Ches Smith, Hammered Pharoah and the Underground, Spiral Mercury more acquired since: Tony Malaby, Incantation Suite Tony Malaby, Somos Agua Tony Malaby, Scorpion Eater Tony Malaby, New Artifacts Dennis Gonzalez, No Photograph Available Ralph Alessi, Wiry Strong Tony Malaby, Novela Tony Malaby, Tamarindo Live Vinny Golia, Sfumato Eric Revis, Sing Me Some Cry Eric Revis, Parallax Eric Revis, In Memory of Things Yet Seen Michael Attias, Live in Greenwich Village Ken Filiano, Scenes from a Clown Car Michael Attias, Renku in Coimbra Michael Attias, Nerve Dance Michael Attias, Twines of Cohesion Angelixa Sanchez, Wires & Moss Michael Attias, Credo Tony Malaby, Voladores Edited February 21, 2021 by Guy Berger Quote
Rabshakeh Posted August 6, 2020 Report Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) Nice! That really is a binge. Let us know how you get on when you get to the crazy listening binge part. I'm planning something similar on Bandcamp this Friday (my self-deluding justification being that it is important to support artists at this time). If anyone has any crucial recommendations burning a hole in their head let me know - including any of the above (although Clean Feed's presence on Bandcamp is spottier than some of the other labels mentioned above). On 14/07/2018 at 1:18 PM, Steve Reynolds said: as far as great modern classic recordings, yes only a few I know of on Clean Feed but I know of dozens of incredible releases on other labels over the past 15 or 20 or even 30 years that are not even included in the “so-called” Pantheon of Jazz Classics. When “The Marmalade King” or “Coming Down the Mountain” or “Searching for Adam” or “Blue Winter” or “Captain of the Deep” are heard by more than 2-3 of us here, then maybe there will be some hope of a more rational perspective. I hadn't seen this list before. Thanks - there are a couple that had escaped my notice. Useful stuff when, as you say, these records aren't really being discussed. Given the barriers to entry, lists like this aren't just a pissing contest, but serve a real purpose as a route to discovery. Edited August 6, 2020 by Rabshakeh Quote
Д.Д. Posted August 6, 2020 Report Posted August 6, 2020 Mark Dresser's solo bass record "Unveil" is great, I am listening to it often: https://cleanfeed-records.com/product/unveil/ Quote
Rabshakeh Posted August 6, 2020 Report Posted August 6, 2020 8 hours ago, Д.Д. said: Mark Dresser's solo bass record "Unveil" is great, I am listening to it often: https://cleanfeed-records.com/product/unveil/ I hadn't come across that one, but I've been listening to it all today at work. It's brilliant. It's such a wall of sound and technique. Quote
colinmce Posted August 11, 2020 Report Posted August 11, 2020 I spent some time with these two recently, both very strong sessions. I also don't pay a ton of attention of this label, lots of watered-down music coming through. I would also recommend this fairly recent one: Quote
mjazzg Posted August 11, 2020 Report Posted August 11, 2020 i rate "Tone Hunting" highly too. I find the presence of Mazur is quite often a very good indicator of quality Quote
Д.Д. Posted August 11, 2020 Report Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, colinmce said: I spent some time with these two recently, both very strong sessions. I also don't pay a ton of attention of this label, lots of watered-down music coming through. 25 minutes ago, mjazzg said: i rate "Tone Hunting" highly too. I find the presence of Mazur is quite often a very good indicator of quality "Tone Hunting" is OK. Same configuration (as, tr, b, dr) and very similar concept and style - but better execution (IMHO), and definitely better sound on early Clean Feed release "Transit" by Jeff Arnal (outstanding drummer, does not seem to be active - as a musician, that is - anymore), Nate Wooley, Seth Misterka and Reuben Radding: https://cleanfeed-records.com/product/transit/ On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Ds2YsFQaVkx9xhdD1BbGy Edited August 11, 2020 by Д.Д. Quote
Guy Berger Posted October 8, 2020 Author Report Posted October 8, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 8:42 PM, Guy Berger said: I went on a somewhat crazy CF binge this week, ordering: Mark Dresser, Nourishments + Sedimental You + Cyber Coup Marty Ehrlich, Frog Leg Logic + Trio Exaltation Have listened to these 5 so far. I'd score them: Dresser, Nourishments 5/5 (great quartet, great compositions; love Denman Maroney's prepared piano) Dresser, Sedimental You 4/5 (I thought this one was a little lethargic relative to Cyber Coup) Dresser, Cyber Coup 5/5 (love the Arthur Blythe tribute that opens the album) Ehrlich, Frog Leg Logic 4/5 (nice but didn't grab me) Ehrlich, Trio Exaltation 5/5 (really great playing by Ehrlich and his trio) Quote
Guy Berger Posted June 15, 2021 Author Report Posted June 15, 2021 Have listened to two more from my acquisition spree: Chris Lightcap, Epicenter 5/5 (excellent songwriting and playing; stronger than the Fresh Sound albums) Ken Filiano, Dreams from a Clown Car 5/5 (I really enjoy this one - a nice contribution to the 2-sax + bass + drums genre) Quote
Guy Berger Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) More: Friends & Neighbors, What’s Next 4/5 I bought this at the recent “stock off”. Solid “retro” free jazz, the kind of thing you expected from a meeting of American and European musicians in the mid/late 60s though I think these guys are exclusively Scandinavian Nick Fraser, Is Life Long? 5/5 really enjoyed this one w/Tony Malaby. I’m a sucker for saxophone and cello I suppose Vinny Golia, Sfumato 4/5 very good recording with Bobby Bradford, Ken Filiano and Alex Cline. Not as good as Take Your Time on Relative Pitch Dennis Gonzalez, NY Midnight Suite 5/5 this one is really great. Strong compositions. Gonzalez’s music has such a great feel. Dennis Gonzalez, Idle Wild 5/5 this one really benefits from the great Oliver Lake joining Gonzalez, love it! Dennis Gonzalez, No Photograph Available 4/5 not quite as great as the two other ones above Dennis Gonzalez, Dance of the Soothsayer’s Tongue: Live at Tonic 4/5 didn’t love this one as much as NY Midnight Suite. But dang, this group could even sound great while asleep up next: Chris Lightcap, Epicenter Edited October 11, 2021 by Guy Berger Quote
romualdo Posted October 12, 2021 Report Posted October 12, 2021 I generally pick up (or have done so) all of Dennis Gonzalez's CF releases - love his work His Silkheart releases with Charles Brackeen are highly recommended IMHO as is his Ayler & Daagnim material Quote
Guy Berger Posted January 5, 2023 Author Report Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Some more I’ve been listened to: Lightcap, Epicenter 5/5: amazing album, maybe the best I’ve heard from this label Steve Lehman, Manifold: 3/5 some good music on here but wasn’t passionate about it. Will revisit. Jonas Kullhammar, Basement Sessions Vol 2 4/5: solid, relatively straight ahead saxophone trio Edited January 5, 2023 by Guy Berger Quote
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