Blakey/Jazz Messengers Cafe Bohemia Vol. 3

[Tom 1960]

Hi guys. While I already own both volumes 1 and 2, I had no idea there was a 3'rd volume?  I happened to see this in an area music store earlier this afternoon. They were asking $15 used. Is there anything special about this release? Thanks.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

thats probably a good price for that dog- isnt it made up of the cd bonus tracks?  

[Kevin Bresnahan]

If you have Volumes 1 & 2 on the US CD releases, you have all of the music that's on Volume 3 from Japan.

 

Edit - If what you saw was the TOCJ-1603 CD, it's somewhat hard to find, so $15 is a pretty good price for it. But as I said, no need to get it if you already have the music on other CDs.

Edited March 2, 2018 by Kevin Bresnahan

[Chuck Nessa]

yep.

 

[Tom 1960]

Don't recall it being a Japanese issue.  But no matter, sounds like I have everything I need. Thanks for the input fellas.

[Big Beat Steve]

Are we talking CD or vinyl?

I bought Vol. 1 on LP (80s reissue) about 20 yars ago and not all that long afterwards came across Vol. 3 as a Japanese facsimile pressing that looked like Vol. 1 and 2 except that the script on the front cover wasn't red but brown and that where the catalog no. was to go (1507 or 1508) this pressing had just ???? on the front and back.

I was intrigued by this as I was only aware of Vol.1 and 2. As the shop owner told me and as the liner notes (by Michael Cuscuna) confirmed these had remained unissued and had been dug out later on the Japanese (who else?) for release on LP.

https://www.discogs.com/Jazz-Messengers-The-At-The-Cafe-Bohemia-Volume-3/release/3510742

Contrary to the above and similar listings, however, my copy does not have the 61007 no. anywhere but just the ???? (and no "limited edition" text next to the High Fidelity in the top corner either. Just a no. DY 5805-01 in small print in the bottom left corner of the back cover and on the label where the actual no. would be supposed to go. Do I have something special there? A promo pressing?

Edited March 3, 2018 by Big Beat Steve

[brownie]

I bought my vinyl copy of vol. 3 when it came out in the Summer of 1984 when I was in LA for the Olympic Games. The Rhino record store had these great King vinyls.that came out then from Japan. Wish I still have them (I mean the vinyls and my ears! ).

[Claude Schlouch]

 

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[Kevin Bresnahan]

9 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said:

Are we talking CD or vinyl?

I bought Vol. 1 on LP (80s reissue) about 20 yars ago and not all that long afterwards came across Vol. 3 as a Japanese facsimile pressing that looked like Vol. 1 and 2 except that the script on the front cover wasn't red but brown and that where the catalog no. was to go (1507 or 1508) this pressing had just ???? on the front and back.

I was intrigued by this as I was only aware of Vol.1 and 2. As the shop owner told me and as the liner notes (by Michael Cuscuna) confirmed these had remained unissued and had been dug out later on the Japanese (who else?) for release on LP.

https://www.discogs.com/Jazz-Messengers-The-At-The-Cafe-Bohemia-Volume-3/release/3510742

Contrary to the above and similar listings, however, my copy does not have the 61007 no. anywhere but just the ???? (and no "limited edition" text next to the High Fidelity in the top corner either. Just a no. DY 5805-01 in small print in the bottom left corner of the back cover and on the label where the actual no. would be supposed to go. Do I have something special there? A promo pressing?

You have this version: https://www.discogs.com/The-Jazz-Messengers-At-The-Cafe-Bohemia-Volume-3/release/7508024

Interesting label... BLP???? BTW, on this label, it does say "Not For Sale" on it.

[Big Beat Steve]

Exactly. It does say Not for Sale in fine print on the bottom of the back cover too. Which is why I guessed it to be a promo. I had somehow overlooked this Discogs entry. Those I saw in the overview listings allindicate  the 61007 catalog no. So it IS a promo, then. Thanks for pointing it out

[paul secor]

FWIW, my copy has 61007 on the front and back covers, the labels, and the obi. And, for some reason unknown to me, N-6-21 in a white rectangle in  the upper right front cover.

I feel a bit like an r&b nerd talking about the B-sides of old 45s or a blues nerd talking about matrix numbers.

[CJ Shearn]

I found this weird too, I posted that on FB.  I have never seen a Blue Note album with a ??? before the BLP or BST prefix.

[JohnS]

I had this too.  If I recall it was a bonus issue if you purchased several albums from the series.  There were tokens on the inner liner note.  Hence the not for sale notice.  My copy of .Leo Parker's"Let me tell you bout  it" was also a similar bonus issue.

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Beat Steve]

49 minutes ago, JohnS said:

I had this too.  If I recall it was a bonus issue if you purchased several albums from the series.  There were tokens on the inner liner note.  Hence the not for sale notice. 

The record in my copy is in a clear plastic sleeve and there is a sheet in Japanese (with a translation of the liner notes and some other info that may relate to the release of this album as it specifies "Not for Sale" in the midst of Japanese signs as well as a date of March, 1983, at the end. No tokens that I can identify.

[Claude Schlouch]

The Blue Note DY-5805-01 was a bonus LP offered to the good customers I was part of in the 80s. The Blue Note BNJ-61007 was released in Japan quite legally in 1984.

I was subscribed to Swing Journal and so I was informed of all upcoming releases including the Blue Note DY-5808-01 and so many others, all sold in 1988 to a parisian store.

Edited March 4, 2018 by Claude Schlouch

[JohnS]

Sorry I couldn't update my post yesterday.   The free offer was on the obi.   Mone came from Mole Jazz.  Had tp pay of course.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

i would get it, i think i could get rid of the cds if i have it