optatio Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) Les McCann “Never a Dull Moment–Live from Coast to Coast (1966-1967)” disc 2 of 3 I like this stuff. Sound is quite decent. Edited December 13, 2023 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 A masterpiece I have neglected to play for far too long. Art Tatum “The Tatum Group Masterpieces Vol. 8” (with Ben Webster) Pablo cd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ghost of miles Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Don Byas featured here on “How High the Moon”: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougcrates Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Original LP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillF Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, dougcrates said: 👍 Now playing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, BillF said: Now playing: Excellent .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 7 hours ago, optatio said: Oh I loved them, those strange ESP LP´s , they had cult status over here. With that modest back cover with tipe written personnell . In this special case of course I don´t know who was Lowell Davidson, but Gary Peacock and Milford Graves proove that it must be something great. ESP has done so much for me, I mean it was an important guide for me to listen to the more free forms, but it´s never completly out of rhythm. Like on BN records of free jazz artists there is always somewhere a point where it "must schwing" . Since I never was really a collector of records, my ESP discography as other stuff is quite scarce: I think I have or I know I have the Ornette Coleman Townhall Concert, I have the Sun Ra , I have the only Henry Grimes trio during that time, and though I never had heard about a "James Zitro" I have his album since it´s my mentor Allan Praskin playin on it, and I love that album, Zitro´s a helluva drummer, and the group is great, and Allan is superb. But all those stories around ESP. I never heard a musician talk positive about them, even if they offered them the first recordings. Money was zero, and it´s easy to put a logo of "The Artist decides what´s on this disc", if he was not paid. Or did near to death Bud Powell, who "recorded" for ESP just a few month before his death, "decide" what´s on the record ???? I doubt he even knew about it after a few hours since he got 50 bucks and was let out into the cold winter streets...... That´s the ugly side of it, but what remains is tons of non commercial music of huge value, all of ´em , Sun Ra, Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman...... 3 hours ago, dougcrates said: I have heard it and enjoyed it. I think I was very impressed by the unorthodox lines Wilbur Ware plays on his bass. And very very nice hard bop, with top hard bop players, but I didn´t listen to it again, there were so many many albums in that style and conception, sure they all is great but I didn´t have the patience to study them all..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 16 hours ago, HutchFan said: Now playing: Baden Powell - Poema on Guitar (SABA/MPS, 1967) Guitar – Baden Powell Bass – Eberhard Weber Drums – Charly Antolini Flute (on 4 of 8 cuts) – Sidney Smith 😁 👍 15 hours ago, BillF said: 👍 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Trio Records [Storyville series Japan] PA-6135 (M)- Bob Brookmeyer / Zoot Sims "Tonight's Jazz Today" - rec. 1956 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Was this record big at the time? I had never heard of it until recently but the contexts in which it comes up online suggests that it might have made a splash, perhaps with the Phil Woods attuned bop revival crowd at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Two albums featuring bassist Gene Perla & drummer Don Alias: Stone Alliance - Stone Alliance (PM, 1976) and Jeremy Steig - Energy (Capitol, 1971) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: Was this record big at the time? I had never heard of it until recently but the contexts in which it comes up online suggests that it might have made a splash, perhaps with the Phil Woods attuned bop revival crowd at the time. I think the next year's "Tiger of San Pedro" made a bigger splash IIRC - especially the chart heard 'round the world, "Sweet Georgia Upside Down." Edited December 13, 2023 by rostasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: Was this record big at the time? I had never heard of it until recently but the contexts in which it comes up online suggests that it might have made a splash, perhaps with the Phil Woods attuned bop revival crowd at the time. I don't know the answer to your question; I was just a kid at the time. But I've read similar things about Watrous making waves back then. It always surprised me that Manhattan Wildlife Refuge was released on Columbia. Given the year (1974), the music seems like something that would more typically be issued on a small/indie label. Then again, Maynard Ferguson was recording for Columbia at that time. They released MF's Live at Jimmy's in '74. Maybe Watrous appealed to the same college kid "lab band" and/or big band crowd as Ferguson -- or, as you say, the bop revivalists. Or both. Edited December 13, 2023 by HutchFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 18 hours ago, optatio said: 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) Big band brassy jazz-rock was a thing in those days. Blood, Sweat & Tears, Chicago, and a slew of others. My uncle, was an agent for Chase and Ides of March and worked with Woody Herman too during that time. Other labels jumped on the bandwagon as well, so you had Chase on Epic, If on Capitol, those Don Ellis sides, Maynard, Buddy Rich, and so on. I was swept up in it as well. Watrous got a lot of play on my radio show in those days because people called in and asked for him. Edited December 13, 2023 by rostasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Prompted by Rab's salsa thread: and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JSngry Posted December 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: Maybe Watrous appealed to the same college kid "lab band" and/or big band crowd as Ferguson... Bingo. Wherever you had lab bands you had trombone sections, and wherever you had trombone sections you had trombone player, and wherever you had that combination, you had that record being sold. Let the record show that MWR was produced by Bill Watrous and... John Hammond!!! The only Watrous album I really love is his Avant-Musakjazz record: But I do love the Pro Tip he allegedly gave before saying such things would get you in trouble (and before he had his own run-in with the law): If you're going to play high, then practice high! Great player, though. Flashy technique, but almost never empty technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, jazzcorner said: Trio Records [Storyville series Japan] PA-6135 (M)- Bob Brookmeyer / Zoot Sims "Tonight's Jazz Today" - rec. 1956 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 Thanks! Some great answers to the query on Watrous. Interesting to hear that there was such overlap between the jazz rock groups, the likes of Maynard Ferguson and the jazz education crowd. I'm not sure how well MWR has dated, but it certainly isn't bad. Some pretty impressive trombone work in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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