sidewinder Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 20 hours ago, BillF said: Dave Cliff is an old friend whom I've known since he was a student on the pioneering jazz course at Leeds College of Music in the 1960s where tutor Peter Ind was a big influence on him. I was a student at Leeds University at the time. There's an interesting recording circulating with Cliff doing a gig with Warne Marsh and Lee Konitz in the late 70s. Whitley Bay, Northumberland, of all places. I think Ind is on that one too (audience recording). Quote
jazzbo Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 Thelonious Monk, “Solo Monk” Columbia cd Great performances here, I especially like “Ruby, My Dear” Quote
jazzbo Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) Some Prestige Miles Davis. First, this Ezz-thetic cd, “2nd Session 1956 Revisited.” I had stopped buying the items in this series because they are basically “gray market” discs, using the European copyright laws to issue things and no notice of licensing or using original parts. But a jazz penpal pulled my coattails towards this one saying the sound was very interesting. Well it is interesting. . . the sound is quite good if a tiny bit “thin,” and it seems as if the engineer has turned this into a stereo recording with some sort of magic. What’s odd is that if this were a stereo Van Gelder recording the drums would be on the right, but they are here on the left, which is odd-sounding. But really the only odd-sounding part of the stereo sound field, which is puzzling. Doesn’t sound like the usual “pseudo-stereo.” Interesting. Maybe it's an anomaly of my system today. Will try to listen on headphones later. 1200×1200 154 KB Then on to “Workin’” Prestige/Concord Rudy Van Gelder Remasters version. Very good sound! (MONO) Edited December 11, 2023 by jazzbo Quote
HutchFan Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 2 hours ago, mikeweil said: I'm now giving this a listen via YouTube. Very interesting. Quote
BillF Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 2 hours ago, sidewinder said: There's an interesting recording circulating with Cliff doing a gig with Warne Marsh and Lee Konitz in the late 70s. Whitley Bay, Northumberland, of all places. I think Ind is on that one too (audience recording). Yes, Dave's recording with Warne and Lee was probably his greatest moment. I seem to recall it was in Scandinavia in several volumes. Peter spread Lennie's message so thoroughly in Leeds that the jazz course was divided into two camps: Tristanoites and others! 😃 30 minutes ago, jazzbo said: 👍 1 hour ago, jazzbo said: Thelonious Monk, “Solo Monk” Columbia cd Great performances here, I especially like “Ruby, My Dear” 👍 Quote
jazzbo Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 Charles Mingus “Tijuana Moods” ORG SACD Quote
jazzcorner Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, jazzbo said: Some Prestige Miles Davis. First, this Ezz-thetic cd, “2nd Session 1956 Revisited.” I had stopped buying the items in this series because they are basically “gray market” discs, using the European copyright laws to issue things and no notice of licensing or using original parts. But a jazz penpal pulled my coattails towards this one saying the sound was very interesting. Well it is interesting. . . the sound is quite good if a tiny bit “thin,” and it seems as if the engineer has turned this into a stereo recording with some sort of magic. What’s odd is that if this were a stereo Van Gelder recording the drums would be on the right, but they are here on the left, which is odd-sounding. But really the only odd-sounding part of the stereo sound field, which is puzzling. Doesn’t sound like the usual “pseudo-stereo.” Interesting. Maybe it's an anomaly of my system today. Will try to listen on headphones later. 1200×1200 154 KB Have these official "Ezz-Thetics" by Miles for many years. There are 2 different editions (on vinyl) with a very good sound quality. But most important its the music what counts. The groups are really great. As to my private taste I would rate these recordings far higher than the most recent electronic influenced stuff from which I have a bunch too. Dont think they are as important as those above mentioned. Edited December 11, 2023 by jazzcorner more text Quote
BillF Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Peter Friedman said: 👍 8 minutes ago, jazzbo said: 👍 Quote
jazzbo Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, jazzcorner said: Have these "Ezz-Thetics" by Miles for many years. There are 2 different editions (on vinyl) with a very good sound quality. But most important its the music what counts. As to my private taste I would rate these recordings far higher than the most recent electronic influenced stuff In this case "Ezz-thetics" is not the Prestige sessions, but a label from Switzerland that is reissuing (among other things) out of copyright material in supposedly "remastered" editions. https://werners-ezzthetics.bandcamp.com/ https://www.discogs.com/label/171702-REVISITED Quote
optatio Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 Ken Dryden wrote on AllMusic:“Highly recommended!“ - agreed! Quote
Peter Friedman Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BillF said: Yes, Dave's recording with Warne and Lee was probably his greatest moment. I seem to recall it was in Scandinavia in several volumes. Peter spread Lennie's message so thoroughly in Leeds that the jazz course was divided into two camps: Tristanoites and others! 😃 👍 👍 I very much like Dave Cliff's guitar playing. I have 3 or 4 CDs on the Storyville label where Dave Cliff plays with Warne Marsh and Lee Konitz. Cliff also appears on a number of CDs on the British Zephyr label. Now playing: Quote
jazzcorner Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, jazzbo said: In this case "Ezz-thetics" is not the Prestige sessions, but a label from Switzerland that is reissuing (among other things) out of copyright material in supposedly "remastered" editions. https://werners-ezzthetics.bandcamp.com/ https://www.discogs.com/label/171702-REVISITED Ah yes thanks. I see. Looks indeed a bit questionable. The parent label Hat Hut however is a regular label. Only the program there is non on my line. ;-] Edited December 11, 2023 by jazzcorner more text Quote
John Tapscott Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 5 hours ago, sidewinder said: 👍 4 hours ago, Peter Friedman said: 👍 2 hours ago, jazzbo said: Charles Mingus “Tijuana Moods” ORG SACD 👍 1 hour ago, Peter Friedman said: I very much like Dave Cliff's guitar playing. I have 3 or 4 CDs on the Storyville label where Dave Cliff plays with Warne Marsh and Lee Konitz. Cliff also appears on a number of CDs on the British Zephyr label. Now playing: 👍 Now: This band takes no prisoners. Whew! 3 hours ago, jazzbo said: Thelonious Monk, “Solo Monk” Columbia cd Great performances here, I especially like “Ruby, My Dear” 👍 Quote
mikeweil Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 4 hours ago, HutchFan said: I'm now giving this a listen via YouTube. Very interesting. Yes it is. I find it interesting that his approach is that of a classically trained pianist/composer, less the dance musician that he was with the Lecuona Cuban Boys. Next was this one: Quote
Gheorghe Posted December 12, 2023 Report Posted December 12, 2023 10 hours ago, jazzcorner said: Have these official "Ezz-Thetics" by Miles for many years. There are 2 different editions (on vinyl) with a very good sound quality. But most important its the music what counts. The groups are really great. As to my private taste I would rate these recordings far higher than the most recent electronic influenced stuff from which I have a bunch too. Dont think they are as important as those above mentioned. oh yeah, the CD with the upper cover I have, since my wife once bought it for me for Chrismas. That´s the typical feminine touch, she saw "Miles Davis" on the cover and of course that´s the only name she "knew", but it was such a nice surprise and I enjoy listening to it just for that little story. The music of course is a bit strange for me, it sounds very much like abstract modern western music, but yeah, I listen to it, I close my eyes and listen to those strange little sounds like that one "Night sounds" or how it is titled, or that bizarre "Nite in Tunisia" with them dissonant sounds of the vibes of Teddy Charles, and the more than strange rhythm approach. Quote
Gheorghe Posted December 12, 2023 Report Posted December 12, 2023 15 hours ago, Peter Friedman said: It had another cover, but this was the very very first jazz I had. I started my live long love and affection for jazz with this album. I knew all the solos, loved Philly J.J.´s drum solo on Salt Peanuts so much, and each of those men was my "personal hero". Until I bought my second album, Mingus with Dolphy 1964, and from that point, those two became my main heroes.... Quote
soulpope Posted December 12, 2023 Report Posted December 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: Classic .... Quote
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