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3 hours ago, Niko said:

Funny story w the open mike ... Also thought of those early days of learning English again when there was this discussion of the Queen compilation for five year olds and the explicit lyrics... Had never thought of that problem because over here kids don't understand anything when they're small... In fact, being able to understand some of the lyrics is a major motivation for learning English....

have some Ralph Burns albums from the 1950s that I like a lot so I was first disappointed that on this album he only arranges while the rhythm section is Oscar Peterson, Ray Brown and Louis Bellson... But, of course, they do a fine job... The whole thing is - again unexpected when you read Peterson - a big band album with soloists like Roy Eldridge, Jimmy Hamilton, Flip Philips... Would have paid the 2€ for the cover alone but now I find myself playing this more than I expected

So if I understand this is not the Ralph Burns I heard on "Hoch auf einem offenem Michael" 😄, but arrangements. Well I think the only Peterson I heard voluntarly was maybe in a rhythm section like that with all star soloists, then I have a Pablo Album of Eddie Lockjaw Davis at Montreux with the Oscar Peterson trio, okay ! And under his own name I have only one that my wife bought me: "In Tune" with the Singers Unlimited". That´s good Peterson because he is not so much bangin them 88 keys, the vocals is so so, but was very much en voque on more civilezed people of "my 1970s" . Nice found from my lady, who sometimes picks things up you won´t expect them......

19 minutes ago, BillF said:

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I think I once saw some Hampton in Paris on an album at someone´s place. Let me say I never was a fan of Hamp with all that "yeah yeah yeah" and jumpin around, but I think in Paris there was something with Parisian musicians too, like Paris settled drummer "Kansas" Fields, even with french șlagăr star Sașa Distel or so...... 
Saw Hamp once and let´s say, the vibe solo´s was nice enough, musical thoughts, very fine ballads, why not, but when he started to play the drums with making some jonglin´ with the sticks instead of playin some drum, and then jumpin to the piano and do those silly two fingered style boogie woogie....that´s not 

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1 hour ago, Gheorghe said:

So if I understand this is not the Ralph Burns I heard on "Hoch auf einem offenem Michael" 😄, but arrangements. Well I think the only Peterson I heard voluntarly was maybe in a rhythm section like that with all star soloists, then I have a Pablo Album of Eddie Lockjaw Davis at Montreux with the Oscar Peterson trio, okay ! And under his own name I have only one that my wife bought me: "In Tune" with the Singers Unlimited". That´s good Peterson because he is not so much bangin them 88 keys, the vocals is so so, but was very much en voque on more civilezed people of "my 1970s" . Nice found from my lady, who sometimes picks things up you won´t expect them......

no, on High on an open mike, like this LP, it's well Burns,   but on the Burns album I posted above it's Peterson... 

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Cal Tjader - Here and There (Fantasy)
CD compiles two LPs: Guarabe (Fantasy, 1977) and Here (Galaxy, 1979)

IMO, Tjader made a raft of outstanding records in the 1970s.  Guarabe might be the best of them. 

 

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5 hours ago, jazzcorner said:

 👍 from the german  MCA reissue series another Ralph burns

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This Burns album I like a lot, I have it on a Japanese cd

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6 hours ago, Rabshakeh said:

Anthony Braxton – Quartet (Standards) 2020

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Something's bitten me recently and I have found myself going through several large box sets of standards by major artists, despite really hating the format. 

Revisiting this for the first time since lockdown. Has anyone else gone back to it yet?

I really think it is towards the top of Braxton's more recent output. I normally blow tepid on most of Braxton's standards records. In particular, I think that the previous 12 CD splurge on Leo (which I have also revisited this August) was one of the weakest things he has done. This set is seems much stronger overall. That is partly because the band is stronger (not least our very own Alexander Hawkins) but I also think Braxton's own playing is more inventive here. 

I played a couple of discs recently and really enjoyed them. The tune selection is interesting and I agree the playing is too notch, from all of them.  The other Braxton Standards I really enjoy are the Steeplechases.

Pleased to have this to dip into. Can't see playing all the discs in order as I did initially again.

The Leo you mention, is that where AB plays piano?

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11 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

I played a couple of discs recently and really enjoyed them. The tune selection is interesting and I agree the playing is too notch, from all of them.  The other Braxton Standards I really enjoy are the Steeplechases.

Pleased to have this to dip into. Can't see playing all the discs in order as I did initially again.

The Leo you mention, is that where AB plays piano?

The Leos I mean are the 3x4CD sets from 2003. 12 CDs of the stuff. They have similar modern artworks as covers. I think that they are pretty wretched. It's Braxton playing mostly GAS type standards with a Tristano-type guitar trio behind him. His playing seems to me to be very sloppy / clumsy, and he keeps repeatedly tearing off on saxophone squiggles that don't relate to the tune and get boring very fast. The poor band is basically nailed in place.

The 2020 set is quite different. The tunes are more interesting - as you say. Arguably many are not really 'standards'. It's more 'Braxton plays other people's tunes'. And the playing is consistently excellent, even emotional, from everyone involved.

I initially only skimmed this set, partly because I was sick of the heavy Braxton splurge of releases at the time, and partly because of my dislike of the Leo CDs.

Are the Steeplechase the In The Tradition ones? I like those, although some of the horn choices are a little gimmicky. Also the Charlie Parker Project and Tristano sets are good, I think. They're more obviously provocative.

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1 minute ago, Rabshakeh said:

The Leos I mean are the 3x4CD sets from 2003. 12 CDs of the stuff. They have similar modern artworks as covers. I think that they are pretty wretched. It's Braxton playing mostly GAS type standards with a Tristano-type guitar trio behind him. His playing seems to me to be very sloppy / clumsy, and he keeps repeatedly tearing off on saxophone squiggles that don't relate to the tune and get boring very fast. The poor band is basically nailed in place.

The 2020 set is quite different. The tunes are more interesting - as you say. Arguably many are not really 'standards'. It's more 'Braxton plays other people's tunes'. And the playing is consistently excellent, even emotional, from everyone involved.

I initially only skimmed this set, partly because I was sick of the heavy Braxton splurge of releases at the time, and partly because of my dislike of the Leo CDs.

Are the Steeplechase the In The Tradition ones? I like those, although some of the horn choices are a little gimmicky. Also the Charlie Parker Project and Tristano sets are good, I think. They're more obviously provocative.

I think I must have checked those Leos out and forgotten about them, very probably for the reasons you identify.

Yes I did mean the 'In The Tradition' ones, I remember hearing them for the first time and being bowled over, I think that glow still exists if only in a nostalgic manner. Still enjoy hearing them.

I also remember buying the Tristano on Hat, great album. Never got on with the Parker set.

Diverging slightly, the Andrew Hills on CIMP count as standards to me and I really rate them

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Just now, mjazzg said:

Yes I did mean the 'In The Tradition' ones, I remember hearing them for the first time and being bowled over, I think that glow still exists if only in a nostalgic manner. Still enjoy hearing them.

I like them. I have the second one. Still young and the thrill of discovery, even if the discovery is sometimes different kinds of saxophones.

2 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

Diverging slightly, the Andrew Hills on CIMP count as standards to me and I really rate them

What is the the CIMP release? Sorry. Being dense.

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12 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said:

I like them. I have the second one. Still young and the thrill of discovery, even if the discovery is sometimes different kinds of saxophones.

What is the the CIMP release? Sorry. Being dense.

These two,

https://www.discogs.com/master/1736140-Anthony-Braxton-Ten-Compositions-Quartet-2000

https://www.discogs.com/master/1736146-Anthony-Braxton-Nine-Compositions-Hill-2000

The only dense thing is AB's discography 

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4 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said:

I don't know them. But he's good on Hill on the 2020 records. Two more Braxton sets to add to the list...

I'm not sure how available they are these days, especially streamably. If you have the means to rip CDs let me know, happy to lend them out

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