jazzbo Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 "Classic Jazz at the Philharmonic Jam Sessions (1950-1957)" Mosaic Records, disc V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Patient-Lee + Bley being exceptionally facile and spry, even by his standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) Now playing: Joey Calderazzo - To Know One (Blue Note, 1992) with Dave Holland & Jack DeJohnette. Jerry Bergonzi and Branford sit in on some of the tracks. 12 hours ago, Gheorghe said: In jazz circles Max´s Quartet really DID make a big splash at my time. At least we, the modern-jazz oriented community, with fans born mostly in the 40´s and 50´s, and there were many many in the 70´s , well Max Roach was almost a God for us, and yes he WAS acknowledged as a bebop pioneer. All drummers, and all modern players of post bop, modal, avantgarde had that range of musical preferences from Bird to post Trane, post Ornette (with "holes" like most West Coast Jazz, Third Stream, Easy Listening Jazz), and I´ll never forget the exitement and enthuasm in town when it was announced that Roach will play. The day before, Art Farmer was booked and his drummer, a drum professor from the Graz-University of course idolized Max Roach. And during intermission before the second set started, Max Roach came in to listen and holding "court" and we hoped he might sit in with Art, but it´s sure, that for contractual reasons this was not possible. But the next night, when Max Roach played his wonderful concert, Art was in the Audience and was announced and greeted by Max Roach. See, for us, and we were a lot of guys, established musicians, budding musicians and most of all a big audience, this was a dream coming true. I mean, our musical tastes spread from the "Massey Hall Concert" to "Clifford Brown-Max Roach" to Miles, Rollins, Trane, Ornette and again electric Miles, so Max was "one of our fathers". During a time a bemoaned the death of Bird ... and Bud who had died only few years before, we all heard 3 out of 5 of the masters from "Massey": Diz, Mingus, Max....". And about the records. There were not as many as let´s say Mingus, but I could find "Speak Brother Speak" and "Clifford Brown-Max Roach on Basin Street". What I did not know then was that there was a special record shop in Viena that had all them Japan Imports, they had the Denon albums of Archie Shepp, of Max Roach and all, but terrible expensive for a teenager. But what I can say for sure: Almost every week there was a big US-Star of Jazz visiting our town and the houses (mostly Audimax of Universities) were PACKED with fans !!!! That´s the surroundings I grew up..... That's interesting, Gheorghe. Thanks for sharing. It sounds like this might be another example of Europe being more supportive of jazz than the U.S. I've heard & read about jazz musicians saying over and over again that their lives would be even more economically untenable without the opportunities that European festivals/touring/recording provides. (Or is the right word "provided"? No sure whether this continues to be the case in the present.) Edited February 1, 2023 by HutchFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sidewinder Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 hours ago, jazzbo said: "Classic Jazz at the Philharmonic Jam Sessions (1950-1957)" Mosaic Records, disc V I’ve got a tracking number at least now so it’s getting nearer on the Mosaic banana boat ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Good news! NP “Leon Thomas in Berlin” (with Oliver Nelson) Flying Dutchman cd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JSngry Posted February 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 hours ago, HutchFan said: That's interesting, Gheorghe. Thanks for sharing. It sounds like this might be another example of Europe being more supportive of jazz than the U.S. Definitely. Look at Max's 70s records. All of them made in Europe or Japan, some of them for smallish (or smaller) labels, some of them appear to be hit-and-run dates, like hey, they're in town, let's make a cash offer, see what we can get. Max would work like that, apparently, rather than doing a US deal where somebody else ended up owning everything in perpetuity. Hell, one of the very best of the lot, Force , the first duet with Shepp, was made through a connection with the Italian Communist Party! Hardly a record company bigwig! Perhaps one of the biggest obstacles to a formal collation of these records is ownership rights. Who owns them, really? And if anybody other than the Estate gives them up....OOPS! So at this point, who wants all that hassle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peter Friedman Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 My impression is that while many American jazz musicians have gone to live in Europe, a significant percentage of them return to the USA at some point. When the musicians travel to various countries they do well for a while. But the special appeal wears off after a while, especially in the country in which they are living. They become just local musicians. Currently playing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) On another board people were discussing Miles Davis “Agharta” so I played the first half of the Sony Blu-Spec CD2 version. 600×600 210 KB And then for some reason I saw the Grateful Dead “Wake of the Flood” cd on the shelf and put that one on, it’s been a long time. (The HDCD remastered version). I can still remember marveling at the original LP I bought when it came out–that was the thickest vinyl I’d ever purchased! This is one of my favorite Dead, and rock, albums. 650×654 44.6 KB Edited February 1, 2023 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 David Murray once said that Summer in Europe pays for the rest of the year in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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optatio Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 6:59 PM, soulpope said: 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rabshakeh Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/31/2023 at 8:01 PM, HutchFan said: Now: Bob Moses - When Elephants Dream of Music (Gramavision, 1983) Superb. Love this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: Love this one. There's nothing else quite like it, is there? It's almost miraculous. The music has a Gil Evans-like grandeur, but it's much more jumpy and trippy -- almost like a fever-dream. And the production is perfectly in tune with the music. Hand in glove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, JSngry said: David Murray once said that Summer in Europe pays for the rest of the year in America. Yeah, I've heard exactly this sort of thing many times. It makes me think of an analogy: A prophet is not without honor, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. -- Mark 6:4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Now this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 7 hours ago, HutchFan said: Now this: Carter Jefferson - a beloved artist of mine - excelled as sideman especially .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Stompin at the Savoy said: 👍 12 hours ago, Joe said: 👍 Now playing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, HutchFan said: Now this: On my list in that vinyl reissue. Great series from Mosaic while it lasted. Slide was an absolute master at making a mid sized band sound twice as big. Brilliant work by Roach and Lateef on this one too. Edited February 2, 2023 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Joe said: Desert island platter .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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