Dub Modal Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 More Ellington: And then more non-jazz: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 "Released in unglued cover. Probably in a plastic bag." might be my favourite discogs release note yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gheorghe Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, HutchFan said: I must have this. I have looked for it for 45 years !!! Because I heard THIS Band and THEIR version of Round Midnight, as much as I remember it starts in 3/4 time and then gets into a very fast and powerful proceeding. Since it was 45 years ago I don´t remember on which bar it changed from 3/4 to fast 4/4. But it was the highlight of the evening and that first live experience with Roach remained one of my most impressive moments of listening to live jazz, and of Max Roach anyway (everything that came after that, didn´t give me the same fascination like the Bridgewater-Harper-Workman band.... 18 hours ago, Justin V said: It was mentioned in the liner notes of one of his early Verve LPs, which was strange because almost never an other label is mentioned in liner notes for one certain label. But I think I remember he cited "Xanadu". During that time I never had heard the word "Xanadu" and had thought that it means "Canada" in another to me unknown language 🤣 I finally got that album in Basel (then in the 70´s the Orient-Express went Bucharest-Paris and stopped in Basel. I got the Bud Powell Xanadu at a record shop in the fancy historic center of Basel, AND in a book store the book "Ira Gitler-Jazz Masters of the 40´s ". It was like heaven on earth to have those to treasures as a young boy. The Xanadu LP is a sampler of different recordings. I think it started with Johnny Griffin -Bud Powell as a duet without bass or drums, but later I discovered, that the recorrding date is completly wrong, because Griff never had been in Paris in 1960. The other sides , I like especially those with Barney Wilen since Bud always sounded greatest when he played with a topnotch horn player. Especially "Autumn in Paris" really moved me. On Side B I think there is a set that features "Crossin the Channel" (from "The Scene Changes"), and a fantastic "Sweet and Lovely" and the best "Johns Abbey I ever heard. This is the best I remember from that "Xanadu" (in my case aka "Canada") album😀 Edited January 31, 2023 by Gheorghe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzcorner Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 10 hours ago, Peter Friedman said: 👍😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soulpope Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 20 hours ago, HutchFan said: Probably the best Max Roach Quartet .... which is quite a statement .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 This is a really good record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Tapscott Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 12 hours ago, HutchFan said: 👍 Generally speaking, I prefer earlier Pepper to later Pepper, but that's good one. Now: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 June Christy “The Misty Miss Christy” Capitol cd 736×716 75 KB I love the tone and texture of June’s voice, it reminds me of someone I love very much, though the phrasing is different. This is one I haven’t played in a while, pulled down from the shelf with some others of hers to play in the next few days. I have wondered what Thelonious Monk would think of her version of “Round Midnight” here–it’s not very Monkian, but she does it justice, with its full orchestra and wistful sound. Followed by “Classic Jazz at the Philharmonic Jam Sessions (1950-1957)” Mosaic Records, disc IV From cool Christy to some hot jams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jazzbo Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 The final Us Five disc in my recent re-visiting of their work. This was the first one, and all the compositions are Joe’s. I don’t always enjoy two drummers but they work in this group. Joe Lovano/Us Five “Folk Art” Blue Note cd 600×610 150 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, John Tapscott said: 👍 Generally speaking, I prefer earlier Pepper to later Pepper, but that's good one. Yeah, it's good stuff. I think these recordings from the Maiden Voyage Club in L.A. are some of Pepper's finest from any time in his career. He seems very relaxed -- even when the music is intense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Gheorghe said: I must have this. I have looked for it for 45 years !!! Because I heard THIS Band and THEIR version of Round Midnight, as much as I remember it starts in 3/4 time and then gets into a very fast and powerful proceeding. Since it was 45 years ago I don´t remember on which bar it changed from 3/4 to fast 4/4. But it was the highlight of the evening and that first live experience with Roach remained one of my most impressive moments of listening to live jazz, and of Max Roach anyway (everything that came after that, didn´t give me the same fascination like the Bridgewater-Harper-Workman band.... It is strange that Max's Live in Tokyo isn't recognized as a "classic of the 1970s" on par with say, Mingus' Changes One and Changes Two. I'm sure that the fact that it was released on Denon didn't help. Even so, you'd think that, over time, jazz fans would get hip to it. I know that it's regarded as an all-time classic on this forum. But elsewhere no one seems to talk about it much. Of course, I'm coming at it from the perspective of someone who wasn't listening to jazz at the time it was released. (Since I was just a kid in the 70s, I only came to it retrospectively.) Did the record -- and Max's Quartet (in general) -- make a big splash at the time? Were they recognized as "important" relative to other bands? I know that Max was acknowledged as a bebop pioneer. But did folks talk about this band as something special? 2 hours ago, JSngry said: This is a really good record. Yes! Edited January 31, 2023 by HutchFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JSngry Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 34 minutes ago, HutchFan said: It is strange that Max's Live in Tokyo isn't recognized as a "classic of the 1970s" on par with say, Mingus' Changes One and Changes Two. I'm sure that the fact that it was released on Denon didn't help. Even so, you'd think that, over time, jazz fans would get hip to it. I know that it's regarded as an all-time classic on this forum. But elsewhere no one seems to talk about it much. Of course, I'm coming at it from the perspective of someone who wasn't listening to jazz at the time it was released. (Since I was just a kid in the 70s, I only came to it retrospectively.) Did the record -- and Max's Quartet (in general) -- make a big splash at the time? Were they recognized as "important" relative to other bands? I know that Max was acknowledged as a bebop pioneer. But did folks talk about this band as something special? In a word - no. I've heard it speculated that Max was blacklisted for a while due to his political statements, and his insistence (no pun intended) on same in his music. I've also heard it speculated that Max was a "difficult" person to work with in business terms. He insisted on owning his own masters and leasing them out to whoever. The truth is probably a bit of both, since it's maybe hard to differentiate between those two things for a lot of people. No judgement here, just an objective, I hope, observation. No matter, that 70s band was totally under the radar of the mainsteream jazz press. Figure that the existence of that thing was build upon selling advertising and helping various hype machines, well, here's a band that made no records for an American label, and only resurfaced at all on Soul Note, and, finally for a quick minute, on Columbia (thanks to Bruce Lundvall). And THAT was the Odean Pope band, which had a different energy altogether. Look at the labels that great Harper-era band recorded for. ZERO American presence. Ad trust me when I tell you that in order to get American presences, you almost always had to have American presence. I found out about this band thanks to a college buddy who had come from Belgium and had The Loadstar. BAM! The Denon records were turning up in Peaches, but not too much elsewhere. Time and perseverance has allowed for a better appreciation of Max's latter bands, but it's still a bit of a cult thing, really. Also, ask yourself why Billy Harper has not really done anything for an American label. Clearly he has ambition, the guy keeps a band and they do get work. (or did). And clearly he is willing to make records. So why not America? Why not, America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 23 minutes ago, Peter Friedman said: Is this a cd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, JSngry said: In a word - no. [ ... ] Why not, America? Can't say that I'm surprised. But that is a bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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