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On 8/10/2017 at 1:54 PM, Larry Kart said:

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A wonderful player, but FWIW Christlieb testified circa 1954 as a "friendly witness" before the House Un-American Activities Committee and named 33 musicians, as well as Norman Granz, as former members of the Musicians' Branch of the Los Angeles-area Communist Party (to which Christlieb himself had belonged). One can imagine the pressures Christlieb himself might have been under from HUAC and the Feds at the time, but his testimony brought down much grief upon the heads of those he named (loss of jobs in the film studio world, etc.), and a good many in the LA musical community never forgave him for what he did.

From Tad Hershorn's Granz biography:
 

'Granz never forgot about these incidents and never forgave those whose testimony against former party members often destroyed their professional lives….

'Almost twenty years later Granz took a moment to stick it to his onetime accuser, Donald Christlieb. His son, the tenor saxophonist Pete Christlieb, was part of a big band led by Louis Bellson being recorded in the mid-1970s for Pablo Records. Greanz inquired about the status of the elder Christlieb.
 
 '“He’s retired,” Christlieb replied.
 
'“Tell him Norman Granz said hello,” Granz said.
 
'“I never heard back on that,” he said.'

for my money, unforgivable, the scum of the earth. Many people resisted. He now resides on my shi# list alongside Elia Kazan.

On Phil Woods I am with Larry, for my own reasons. Later Woods is like a bebop machine and his sound is studio redux. (I also can't stand Rhiannon Giddens, who is the darling of the NPR liberals who think listening to her - and the Chocolate Drops - shows their progressiveness.)

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5 hours ago, AllenLowe said:

for my money, unforgivable, the scum of the earth. Many people resisted. He now resides on my shi# list alongside Elia Kazan.

On Phil Woods I am with Larry, for my own reasons. Later Woods is like a bebop machine and his sound is studio redux. (I also can't stand Rhiannon Giddens, who is the darling of the NPR liberals who think listening to her - and the Chocolate Drops - shows their progressiveness.)

5 hours ago, AllenLowe said:

 

IIRC  (and I often don't) someone on this forum recently attended a Giddens concert and liked it.  So why do you gratuitously feel the need to insult them?  No one was even talking about her.   As someone  recently wrote : there's a reason why there's less and less discussion on this forum.    Vituperative comments like yours just drive people away. 

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Sun Ra's "My Brother the Wind Vol. 1" the new, expanded, reissue on Cosmic Myth out this week.
 
I was away from home all day yesterday traveling to and from and visiting one of my sister-in-laws in Narwalk, OH and this package was left on my porch by UPS before a heavy downpour of rain occurred. Though the digipak was sealed. . . it was soaked and falling apart. Even the underside of the cd was soaked. So I ordered a new copy and am listening to the CD but can't read the notes or discographic info.
 
This is very different from Vol. 2 which I have on Evidence. . .very free jazz and freaky Moog.  Sound is very good, which is what I expect going forward with these new reissues from the Sun Ra archives.
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4 hours ago, medjuck said:

IIRC  (and I often don't) someone on this forum recently attended a Giddens concert and liked it.  So why do you gratuitously feel the need to insult them?  No one was even talking about her.   As someone  recently wrote : there's a reason why there's less and less discussion on this forum.    Vituperative comments like yours just drive people away. 

I was responding to various listening experiences here - and someone mentioned Giddens above. I really don't think my comment is gratuitous - since it is warranted by the spirit of debate as often expressed here; and it wasn't really nasty enough to be vituperative. I do have strong feelings about her and that group because I feel like they represent an abuse of tradition, a fake way of looking at history. Their music is exploitative and false. Of course this is only my opinion, but I think that it is in the proper spirit of this forum.

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More Bill Barron:

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Bill Barron - Variations in Blue (Muse LP, rec. 1983)
with Jimmy Owens, Kenny Barron, Ray Drummond, Ben Riley

 

 

 

3 hours ago, jazzbo said:

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Any thoughts on this one, jazzbo? (Or others?)  I've never heard it.

 

 

13 hours ago, sidewinder said:

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I wish I'd ordered that one. :( 

 

 

3 hours ago, kinuta said:

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I REALLY wish I'd ordered that one.  I have some (most?) of the music from Slugs on a Charly CD.  Oh well. Like the old saying goes, "He who hesitates is lost!"  :P

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