Dub Modal Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 16 hours ago, JSngry said: All these years having to run away from Streisand & the like, hell columbia does one record with Joanie Sommers, gets Mort Garson (of Arthur Prysock) and BOOM who cares about that? A lot of people, obviously, but...Joanie Sommers got skills, is it ok to say that? If it was really that way, everybody would do it, right? Did everybody do that? 14 hours ago, rostasi said: Mort Garson - Mother Earth's Plantasia Mort Garson was a talented guy. I've got a couple of his albums. Going to reach for one before the weekend's out. Meanwhile, playing some John Patton. First up, Accent on the Blues With Blood Ulmer & Marvin Cabell - great, great album. Up next and now: Quote
JSngry Posted June 4, 2021 Author Report Posted June 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dub Modal said: Mort Garson was a talented guy. I've got a couple of his albums. Going to reach for one before the weekend's out. Are you into Arthur Prysock at all? Quote
Dub Modal Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JSngry said: Are you into Arthur Prysock at all? Have only heard a song or two via links shared somewhere on these boards. It was his version of Rainy Night in Georgia that I really dug. Edited June 4, 2021 by Dub Modal Quote
JSngry Posted June 4, 2021 Author Report Posted June 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dub Modal said: Meanwhile, playing some John Patton. First up, Accent on the Blues With Blood Ulmer & Marvin Cabell - great, great album. Up next and now: My favorite Patton BN, hands-down. Total band action, not "solos + band"! Quote
Dub Modal Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, JSngry said: My favorite Patton BN, hands-down. Total band action, not "solos + band"! I was noticing a little more cohesion between him and Ulmer. Green and Patton seem to get competitive at times on their albums together. Quote
soulpope Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, Dub Modal said: Up next and now: Excellent ... both sax players soar .... Quote
Dub Modal Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) Moving on to more Patton, this time Blue John. Per Discogs there was only an original test pressing of this LP on plastylite(!) then absolutely nothing until the 1986 DMM LP and cassette(!!!). Later on came CDs. Wild. They must not have thought much about this album. Now that I'm listening to it maybe it had to do with subpar sonics from the session? Or is that just my CD version of this? Edited June 4, 2021 by Dub Modal Quote
cds23 Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 THE LLOYD MCNEILL QUARTET | WASHINGTON SUITE | ASHA | 1970 | US FIRST STEREO PRESSING ASHA_3 LP This album, of course, is a favourite of many Soul and Fusion Jazz aficionados and doesn't require much introduction. I feel the greatest achievement of this album is how it turned even the most ardent of flute-haters into flute enthusiasts. The recording, the perfect control of all instruments used and the arrangements make this one of my desert island records. When I first listened to this original pressing I was shocked by how different it sounded compared to the Soul Jazz / Universal Sounds reissue (available on CD and LP). I couldn't put my finger on it right away; at first I thought the transfer used for the reissue (sadly, no master tapes exist anymore, so all reissues were cut from a needle drop) lacked bass. But then I realized the original is much slower than the reissue. "Home Rule" for example, clocks in at 6:25 minutes - on the Soul Jazz LP and CD, this track merely lasts 6:00. Same goes for all other tracks, which are between 20 and 35 seconds faster on the reissue. Overall, the original is about 2 minutes slower - believe me, you don't need perfect pitch hearing to hear that. I guess either the turntable used by Soul Jazz for the vinyl transfer wasn't properly set up or the pitch got accidentally changed during digital mastering. Anyway, I'm curious to hear/read how obvious the difference in pitch is to you (if you don’t have any version of this album yet, you can find it on Spotify, which is the Soul Jazz version - compare that to the youtube uploads which were done from a different transfer without speed issues). I had to laugh when I thought about how much trouble mastering engineers went to reset pitch on "Kind of Blue", which was maybe 1% too fast on the original six-eye pressing compared to the three track tapes; here you have a reissue that is about 5% too fast or more and nobody even noticed before releasing it. Quote
sidewinder Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dub Modal said: Moving on to more Patton, this time Blue John. Per Discogs there was only an original test pressing of this LP on plastylite(!) then absolutely nothing until the 1986 DMM LP and cassette(!!!). Later on came CDs. Wild. They must not have thought much about this album. Now that I'm listening to it maybe it had to do with subpar sonics from the session? Or is that just my CD version of this? I think the first CD version that came out was white spine ‘Collectors Choice’. Still have my copy. Big John did have a habit of issuing one offs on BN which then went into obscurity (i.e. ‘Memphis’ German Liberty). Liking it ! Quote
Dub Modal Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, sidewinder said: I think the first CD version that came out was white spine ‘Collectors Choice’. Still have my copy. Big John did have a habit of issuing one offs on BN which then went into obscurity (i.e. ‘Memphis’ German Liberty). Actually, I'm now noticing that Braith is playing a Stritch. At first it sounded like the sax was distant, then almost kazoo-ish. Now that I know it's a Stritch I take back my bad SQ comment. This is a damn good album. I wonder if there were second thoughts about how the Stritch sounded on the recording, but not the overall recording. Quote
sidewinder Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dub Modal said: Actually, I'm now noticing that Braith is playing a Stritch. At first it sounded like the sax was distant, then almost kazoo-ish. Now that I know it's a Stritch I take back my bad SQ comment. This is a damn good album. I wonder if there were second thoughts about how the Stritch sounded on the recording, but not the overall recording. I’d even forgotten Braith was on that one ! Must dig it out this weekend (if I can find it). Quote
Dub Modal Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, sidewinder said: I’d even forgotten Braith was on that one ! Must dig it out this weekend (if I can find it). Actually going by the full "Braithwaite" on the cover. Side question is that I'm wondering if he was related to Junior Braithwaite of early Wailers fame? And actually, I think Braith might be playing his Braithophone! It's a Stritch & soprano mended together. Wild wild stuff. Edited June 4, 2021 by Dub Modal Quote
Dub Modal Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 Next up is Patton's Boogaloo With Sunshine Man Harold Alexander, George Brown, Pablo Landrum & Vincent McEwan. Quote
rostasi Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 Random Radio 083: Get the Balance Right Henry Kaiser / Damon Smith - Unlocatable Questions Jacob Lindsay / Ava Mendoza / Damon Smith / Weasel Walter - Blown Out Birgit Ulher / Damon Smith / Martin Blume - 0.02x0.90x1.20m (07.22) Carl - Double Crime, Pt. II Jaap Blonk / Damon Smith - Totenklage (Dirge) Alvin Fielder / David Dove / Jason Jackson / Damon Smith - From-To-From Alvin Fielder / Damon Smith - Improvisation 3 Danny Kamins / Damon Smith / Alvin Fielder / Joe Hertenstein - Storms Pt. 2 Frank Gratkowski / Scott R. Looney / Damon Smith / Kjell Nordeson - Badger Interlocks Kiwi Gianni Gebbia / Damon Smith / Garth Powell - Bring Flowers Frank Gratkowski / Damon Smith / Jerome Bryerton - Two Instances of Libel/One Memory Lapse: Increased (A) Henry Kaiser / Damon Smith / Weasel Walter - Violent Is the Word for Curly Jaap Blonk / Sandy Ewen / Damon Smith / Chris Cogburn - On the Big Wulk Henry Kaiser Sextett - So What Do You Think About John Stevens? Carol Genetti / Damon Smith + Fred Lonberg-Holm - Self-Perpetuating Damon Smith - Reference Georg Graewe / Damon Smith / Michael Vatcher - Semaphore #06 Ewen / Smith / Walter - Avant Garden 2 Burton Greene / Damon Smith / Ra Kalam Bob Moses - Anything That Ain't Yes, Get Rid of It! Bertram Turetzky / Damon Smith - Woodsong Alvin Fielder / Frode Gjerstad / Damon Smith - Angles, Curves, Edges & Mass Pt. 1 Henry Kaiser / Steve Parker / Damon Smith / Chris Cogburn - !Kung Quote
jlhoots Posted June 4, 2021 Report Posted June 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Dub Modal said: Does that Braxton thingy work on DVD? Quote
Rabshakeh Posted June 5, 2021 Report Posted June 5, 2021 8 hours ago, rostasi said: Random Radio 083: Get the Balance Right Henry Kaiser / Damon Smith - Unlocatable Questions Jacob Lindsay / Ava Mendoza / Damon Smith / Weasel Walter - Blown Out Birgit Ulher / Damon Smith / Martin Blume - 0.02x0.90x1.20m (07.22) Carl - Double Crime, Pt. II Jaap Blonk / Damon Smith - Totenklage (Dirge) Alvin Fielder / David Dove / Jason Jackson / Damon Smith - From-To-From Alvin Fielder / Damon Smith - Improvisation 3 Danny Kamins / Damon Smith / Alvin Fielder / Joe Hertenstein - Storms Pt. 2 Frank Gratkowski / Scott R. Looney / Damon Smith / Kjell Nordeson - Badger Interlocks Kiwi Gianni Gebbia / Damon Smith / Garth Powell - Bring Flowers Frank Gratkowski / Damon Smith / Jerome Bryerton - Two Instances of Libel/One Memory Lapse: Increased (A) Henry Kaiser / Damon Smith / Weasel Walter - Violent Is the Word for Curly Jaap Blonk / Sandy Ewen / Damon Smith / Chris Cogburn - On the Big Wulk Henry Kaiser Sextett - So What Do You Think About John Stevens? Carol Genetti / Damon Smith + Fred Lonberg-Holm - Self-Perpetuating Damon Smith - Reference Georg Graewe / Damon Smith / Michael Vatcher - Semaphore #06 Ewen / Smith / Walter - Avant Garden 2 Burton Greene / Damon Smith / Ra Kalam Bob Moses - Anything That Ain't Yes, Get Rid of It! Bertram Turetzky / Damon Smith - Woodsong Alvin Fielder / Frode Gjerstad / Damon Smith - Angles, Curves, Edges & Mass Pt. 1 Henry Kaiser / Steve Parker / Damon Smith / Chris Cogburn - !Kung Some interesting looking stuff in here. Quote
Pim Posted June 5, 2021 Report Posted June 5, 2021 Great reissue, fantastic sound but a 2 LP version was a bit unnecessary Quote
rostasi Posted June 5, 2021 Report Posted June 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Rabshakeh said: Some interesting looking stuff in here. Feel free to listen! Quote
mjazzg Posted June 5, 2021 Report Posted June 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, Pim said: Great reissue, fantastic sound but a 2 LP version was a bit unnecessary BBE are fond of stretching across 2LPs but the resultant sound does tend to be very good. That's a fine album Quote
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