Rooster_Ties Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: Especially the lengthy bonus track on the CD reissue. Quote
soulpope Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: Superb .... Quote
Gheorghe Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 On 11.6.2022 at 4:25 PM, JSngry said: The contrast between Art Farmer & Cedar Walton here is at times almost comical, although not in a lessening way. This is my only Art Farmer album under his own name. I bought it about the time it came out since Art Farmer lived in Vienna if he was not touring and played a lot there. I got it signed by him with a dedication. On 11.6.2022 at 11:15 PM, jazzcorner said: About the same time in the 70´s some of the Supersax were bought by Bird fans and first we said "wow" , but while you can go back to Bird at any time and find inspiration, you won´t spin Supersax to much after that first "wow". And last but not least the rhythm section is too mainstream like, It almost sounds like it could be a machine, no live rhythm section. Most kids over here had the two MPS albums I think with Blue Mitchell and Frank Rosolino added. "SaltPeanuts" and "Koko" were more expensive and not found everywhere. 6 hours ago, felser said: from the big box set: Actually my second Miles LP then (after "Steamin´".....my third was "Agharta"). But it had another cover and was very cheap. But I loved it most. Soon I founded it much more interesting than "Steamin". Especially that fast "Walkin´" fascinated me, with Tony Williams drum solo..... Quote
sidewinder Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Gheorghe said: This is my only Art Farmer album under his own name. I bought it about the time it came out since Art Farmer lived in Vienna if he was not touring and played a lot there. I got it signed by him with a dedication. About the same time in the 70´s some of the Supersax were bought by Bird fans and first we said "wow" , but while you can go back to Bird at any time and find inspiration, you won´t spin Supersax to much after that first "wow". And last but not least the rhythm section is too mainstream like, It almost sounds like it could be a machine, no live rhythm section. Most kids over here had the two MPS albums I think with Blue Mitchell and Frank Rosolino added. "SaltPeanuts" and "Koko" were more expensive and not found everywhere. Actually my second Miles LP then (after "Steamin´".....my third was "Agharta"). But it had another cover and was very cheap. But I loved it most. Soon I founded it much more interesting than "Steamin". Especially that fast "Walkin´" fascinated me, with Tony Williams drum solo..... I bought that ‘Salt Peanuts’ album by Supersax when it came out but haven’t played it for years. UK pressing by Capitol, I think. Quote
Gheorghe Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, sidewinder said: I bought that ‘Salt Peanuts’ album by Supersax when it came out but haven’t played it for years. UK pressing by Capitol, I think. maybe some day I will save it on usb stick for the car, for a longer drive you can listen to such stuff. For really listening I prefer more demanding stuff..... Quote
sidewinder Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Gheorghe said: This is my only Art Farmer album under his own name. I bought it about the time it came out since Art Farmer lived in Vienna if he was not touring and played a lot there. I got it signed by him with a dedication. Picked up my LP copy as an Inner City deletion around 1980, from Mole Jazz I think. That and the one with the lady’s sun hat on the cover are both great. 54 minutes ago, Gheorghe said: maybe some day I will save it on usb stick for the car, for a longer drive you can listen to such stuff. For really listening I prefer more demanding stuff..... Bought ‘Salt Peanuts’ I think as I was on a Parker/bop kick at the time. Many years later I saw Med Flory, Conte Candoli, Lou Levy and Jack Nimitz in person, which recalled hearing them on this session. Quote
Gheorghe Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, sidewinder said: Picked up my LP copy as an Inner City deletion around 1980, from Mole Jazz I think. That and the one with the lady’s sun hat on the cover are both great. Bought ‘Salt Peanuts’ I think as I was on a Parker/bop kick at the time. Many years later I saw Med Flory, Conte Candoli, Lou Levy and Jack Nimitz in person, which recalled hearing them on this session. Yeah and I was in the middle of that Parker/bop kick. I discovered Parker from reading the liner notes of "Steamin" and from the title "Parkeriana" of Mingus, my only LPs then. And I noticed that saxophonists were crazy about Charlie Parker and if you listened to Ornette Coleman, Eric Dolphy AND Charlie Parker, you were hip. Later I got acquainted to Jackie McLean too, and those four alto players are the sound I have in my ears. But I also heard Arthur Blythe and Donald Harrison do great things....., what I don´t like are more syrop sounds on alto, I think the alto must be "sugar free" for my tastes ..... Quote
nighthawk68 Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 Been on a Sam Noto and Ronnie Cuber kick lately and this checks off both boxes. Some fine originals and some spirited playing. Quote
soulpope Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 2 hours ago, sidewinder said: Picked up my LP copy as an Inner City deletion around 1980, from Mole Jazz I think. That and the one with the lady’s sun hat on the cover are both great .... I believe the one with the "spilled coffee on the cover" make it three great albums in a row .... btw all three recorded at the same session if I remember correctly .... Quote
sidewinder Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, soulpope said: I believe the one with the "spilled coffee on the cover" make it three great albums in a row .... btw all three recorded at the same session if I remember correctly .... Yes, I have that too on a Japanese pressing. ‘Yesterday’s Thoughts’ or something like that? I prefer the other two though - need to dig them all out. The ‘green lady’s straw hat’ one is particularly nice , really captures the Walton trio well. 2 hours ago, BillF said: Somewhere I have a truly ancient Philips vinyl LP of that one. Sonically, one level up from Edison cylinder . Edited June 13, 2022 by sidewinder Quote
jazzcorner Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Gheorghe said: Re SUPERSAX About the same time in the 70´s some of the Supersax were bought by Bird fans and first we said "wow" , but while you can go back to Bird at any time and find inspiration, you won´t spin Supersax to much after that first "wow". And last but not least the rhythm section is too mainstream like, It almost sounds like it could be a machine, no live rhythm section. Most kids over here had the two MPS albums I think with Blue Mitchell and Frank Rosolino added. "SaltPeanuts" and "Koko" were more expensive and not found everywhere. Correct what you say about the first Impression. But I still like the group and have most of their material. Also have enough of the original Bird & Diz Here is my SS list Supersax Supersax plays Bird 1973 Capitol Supersax plays Bird Vol 2 Salt Peanuts"" 1974 Capitol Supersax Supersax plays Bird with Strings 1975 Capitol CD Supersax The Japanese Tour Vol I 1975 Hindsight CD Supersax The Japanese Tour Vol II 1975 Hindsight Supersax Dynamite!! 1977 MPS CD Supersax Supersax chasing the bird / Dynamite 1977-79 MPS Supersax & LA Voices-Vol 2 1984 Columbia Supersax & LA Voices-Vol. 3 [rec at Capitol Studio A] 1986 Columbia Supersax Stonebird 1988 Columbia /Sony CD Supersax & LA Voices The complete edition 1983-86 CBS(2) Edited June 13, 2022 by jazzcorner Quote
BillF Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, jazzcorner said: Correct what you say about the first Impression. But I still like the group and have most of their material. Also have enough of the original Bird & Diz Here is my SS list Supersax Supersax plays Bird 1973 Capitol Supersax plays Bird Vol 2 Salt Peanuts"" 1974 Capitol Supersax Supersax plays Bird with Strings 1975 Capitol CD Supersax The Japanese Tour Vol I 1975 Hindsight CD Supersax The Japanese Tour Vol II 1975 Hindsight Supersax Dynamite!! 1977 MPS CD Supersax Supersax chasing the bird / Dynamite 1977-79 MPS Supersax & LA Voices-Vol 2 1984 Columbia Supersax & LA Voices-Vol. 3 [rec at Capitol Studio A] 1986 Columbia Supersax Stonebird 1988 Columbia /Sony CD Supersax & LA Voices The complete edition 1983-86 CBS(2) Multiple s. Quote
Larry Kart Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BillF said: Multiple s. The ones with Warne Marsh solos are essential IMO. Quote
HutchFan Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 9:57 PM, Bill Nelson said: 'Lovesick' is my favorite mid-60's jazz LP of Jackie & Roy. It was their last album for Verve. Afterwards, their manager convinced them to chase radio hits with the wretched rock-oriented 'Grass', a one-shot on Capitol. A four-year recording hiatus followed. Bill, I agree with you re: Lovesick. I think it's one of their finest. Gotta say though: I sorta like Grass. I think J&R were just trying to move into more contemporary territory -- and it works for me. OTOH, I think Changes, the album that preceded Lovesick is MUCH less musically interesting than Grass. I would point to Changes as their least successful "crossover" attempt. Quote
soulpope Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, sidewinder said: Yes, I have that too on a Japanese pressing. ‘Yesterday’s Thoughts’ or something like that? I prefer the other two though - need to dig them all out. The ‘green lady’s straw hat’ one is particularly nice , really captures the Walton trio well. Yep .... and "The Summer Knows" about the green lady's straw hat 😇 .... Edited June 13, 2022 by soulpope Quote
sidewinder Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, soulpope said: Yep .... and "The Summer Knows" about the green lady's straw hat 😇 .... ! Quote
soulpope Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 Somehow felt motivated to play this one .... Quote
jazzcorner Posted June 13, 2022 Report Posted June 13, 2022 5 hours ago, BillF said: Re: Supersax Multiple s. Thanks a lot ;-}} 10 hours ago, Gheorghe said: maybe some day I will save it on usb stick for the car, for a longer drive you can listen to such stuff. For really listening I prefer more demanding stuff..... Most things are "demanding" when they are new. Times and tastes change with growing age. Thats quite normal. Sometimes I like more to look back than go ahead. Jazz is an ever changing artform. Quote
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