jazzbo Posted September 27, 2021 Report Posted September 27, 2021 2 hours ago, soulpope said: Strongly believe this has to be from 1970 .... btw same titles like issued as concert from Milano, Italy dated October 25th, 1970 on "Joker" .... ? Ibdon't have any reason to doubt this dating myself, nor am I familiar with the Joker. Quote
John Tapscott Posted September 27, 2021 Report Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: Basie with Diz: Now: Quote
kh1958 Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 The Cookers, Look Out (Gearbox) Quote
Gheorghe Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 7 hours ago, HutchFan said: Basie with Diz: I also have this. My wife bought it for me last Chrismas, since she knew I have a lot of Diz but never saw this one in my collections. I like it mostly for the fact my wife bought it, yeah it swings and you can really close your eyes and relax listening to it. But I must also state, that it doesnt really work together Basie and Diz. First of all they didn´t seem to get a lot of common material, most of it is blues, with the excepetion of "Ow" based on Rhythm Changes. But IMHO Basie has a too spare piano style to make such a small group album. His little phrases, a note here, a note there is mighty fine with the Basie Big Band, and maybe on the Basie All Star Jams for Pablo, but here, let´s say playing a very slow blues, there is not very much happening . He even plays lesser notes than Tadd Dameron, who sometimes was critizized for is lack of pianism, but Tadd really plays stuff on the quartet album with Trane. And somehow, Ray Brown always is too loud. The cover photo...... well that´s some pseudo 70´s scene. Dizzy might have been in his late 50´s but tries to wear 70´s closes and hippie like sittin on the floor. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: Never HEARD of this guy, but what a personnel list! With breakfast, some real wake-up music Big Jay McNeely - Big Jay in 3D - Federal Amos Milburn - Just one more drink - Aladdin (Route 66) Erskine Hawkins - Swinging in Harlem - Vocalion (Tax) Now Stanley Turrentine - New time shuffle - BN Next Jimmy McGriff's greatest organ hits - Sue (UA GB - two more tracks than the US version) MG Quote
jazzcorner Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 11 hours ago, John Tapscott said: Now: Both volumes are great and a "musthave" Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 6 hours ago, kh1958 said: The Cookers, Look Out (Gearbox) My LP from Amazon got delayed to next month. Quote
soulpope Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 14 hours ago, jazzbo said: Ibdon't have any reason to doubt this dating myself, nor am I familiar with the Joker. https://www.jazzdisco.org/charles-mingus/discography/ Charles Mingus Sextet Eddie Preston, trumpet; Charles McPherson, alto sax; Bobby Jones, tenor sax; Jaki Byard, piano; Charles Mingus, bass; Dannie Richmond, drums. "Teatro Lirico", Milan, Italy, October 25, 1970 Orange Was The Colour Of Her DressJoker (J) UPS-2072-KR The Man Who Never Sleeps- O.P.- * Joker (J) UPS-2072-KR; Lotus (It) ORL 8296, LOP 14.066; Passport (It) LPPS 11.108 Charlie Mingus - Statements Quote
jazzbo Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, soulpope said: https://www.jazzdisco.org/charles-mingus/discography/ Charles Mingus Sextet Eddie Preston, trumpet; Charles McPherson, alto sax; Bobby Jones, tenor sax; Jaki Byard, piano; Charles Mingus, bass; Dannie Richmond, drums. "Teatro Lirico", Milan, Italy, October 25, 1970 Orange Was The Colour Of Her DressJoker (J) UPS-2072-KR The Man Who Never Sleeps- O.P.- * Joker (J) UPS-2072-KR; Lotus (It) ORL 8296, LOP 14.066; Passport (It) LPPS 11.108 Charlie Mingus - Statements Cool. My two cents. . . the Japanese label "licensed" this recording and if that is true I'd believe their dating more than. . . Joker Records. But regardless--good music! Now spinning: "Svensk Jazzhistoria Vol. 8 - Swedish Jazz 1956-1959 - Topsy Theme" disc 1 Edited September 28, 2021 by jazzbo Quote
soulpope Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 Just now, jazzbo said: Cool. My two cents. . . the Japanese label "licensed" this recording and if that is true I'd believe their dating more than. . . Joker Records. There is no evidence of Mingus recordings from 1969, but who knows ....btw do like the frontline with McPherson + Jones + Preston, so great to have the music .... Quote
JSngry Posted September 28, 2021 Author Report Posted September 28, 2021 Joker was a bootleg/grey market label (Italian in origin, IIRC?) of the 70s that put out some great stuff, that's floated around in different guises for years, notably ton he Lotus label. NP: More Hale Smith, please! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 Lionel Hampton Big band - Clef 1955 Erskine Hawkins - Horizons du jazz no 17 - RCA Victor DCG-P - Diz delights - RCA Victor MG Quote
kh1958 Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) Archie Shepp and Jason Moran, Let My People Go (Jazz Village) Edited September 28, 2021 by kh1958 Quote
jazzbo Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 Sun Ra "Languidity" . . . the alternate mix. Me like. Quote
HutchFan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 Disc 2 - Originally released as Fathead Comes On and House of David 8 hours ago, Gheorghe said: I also have this. My wife bought it for me last Chrismas, since she knew I have a lot of Diz but never saw this one in my collections. I like it mostly for the fact my wife bought it, yeah it swings and you can really close your eyes and relax listening to it. But I must also state, that it doesnt really work together Basie and Diz. First of all they didn´t seem to get a lot of common material, most of it is blues, with the excepetion of "Ow" based on Rhythm Changes. But IMHO Basie has a too spare piano style to make such a small group album. His little phrases, a note here, a note there is mighty fine with the Basie Big Band, and maybe on the Basie All Star Jams for Pablo, but here, let´s say playing a very slow blues, there is not very much happening . He even plays lesser notes than Tadd Dameron, who sometimes was critizized for is lack of pianism, but Tadd really plays stuff on the quartet album with Trane. And somehow, Ray Brown always is too loud. The cover photo...... well that´s some pseudo 70´s scene. Dizzy might have been in his late 50´s but tries to wear 70´s closes and hippie like sittin on the floor. Funny how we all hear things so differently. Because I love that album. To my ears, it's a bit of a stylistic and generational "mismatch" -- perhaps comparable to Ellington's recordings with Coltrane -- that works beautifully despite those differences (and maybe even, on some level, because of those differences). Quote
soulpope Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 16 hours ago, HutchFan said: Basie with Diz: Superb Cover Photography + great music .... Quote
kh1958 Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Funny how we all hear things so differently. Because I love that album. To my ears, it's a bit of a stylistic and generational "mismatch" -- perhaps comparable to Ellington's recordings with Coltrane -- that works beautifully despite those differences (and maybe even, on some level, because of those differences). The small group Pablo releases featuring Basie, which I ignored at the time, have proven to be a bountiful treasure. Thanks once again, Norman Granz, for capturing it on record. Quote
Dub Modal Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 This OJC has some alternate takes and is enjoyable. Quote
mhatta Posted September 28, 2021 Report Posted September 28, 2021 The premature death of Emily Remler is still sorely missed. Quote
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