JSngry Posted February 14, 2017 Report Posted February 14, 2017 Anybody got a list of all the ECM New Series releases handy for sharing? Thanks in advance if so! Quote
T.D. Posted February 14, 2017 Report Posted February 14, 2017 Discogs has a list of 459 titles, but I can't swear to its accuracy. Quote
JSngry Posted February 15, 2017 Author Report Posted February 15, 2017 459? Damn....I had no idea...thanks. Quote
T.D. Posted February 15, 2017 Report Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) The list seems kinda disorganized! I can't tell how (or even if) it's sorted. Granted, sorting would be tough considering that many of the titles feature multiple composers. [Added: It's pretty much in numerical order (not exactly chronological), except for a lot of weirdness on pp. 1 and 5.] Edited February 15, 2017 by T.D. Quote
rostasi Posted February 15, 2017 Report Posted February 15, 2017 2 hours ago, JSngry said: Anybody got a list of all the ECM New Series releases handy for sharing? Thanks in advance if so! Here's a more organized list. The ones with "NS" are new series. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 15, 2017 Report Posted February 15, 2017 ECM has put out a LOT of records. It's almost impossible to comprehend. I mostly just have earlier titles, though have enjoyed some recent ones (especially the Cyrille). Other than Steve Reich LPs (dig) and the occasional Pärt (not a fan), I've not spent any time with New Series music. Quote
king ubu Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 Actually I think in terms of recent (i.e. 2000 and later) releases, I'm a much bigger fan generally speaking of New Series than ECM's jazz releases. All those Keller, Kurtág, Holliger, Zehetmair discs, Kremer doing Weinberg, Kopatchinskaja ... The listing here actually shows that the catalogue numbers are on-going, "New Series" being added where applicable/called for (including the Reich albums of course): https://ecmreviews.com/catalogue/ Quote
rostasi Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 How strange - the Wikipedia list I linked to is considerably more up-to-date than the ECM reviews link. I'm wondering who is doing the reviews one? Quote
JSngry Posted February 16, 2017 Author Report Posted February 16, 2017 7 hours ago, king ubu said: Actually I think in terms of recent (i.e. 2000 and later) releases, I'm a much bigger fan generally speaking of New Series than ECM's jazz releases. All those Keller, Kurtág, Holliger, Zehetmair discs, Kremer doing Weinberg, Kopatchinskaja ... Yes, it's the new Kremer/Weinberg release that has cuahgt my ear and stimulated curiosity. Looking back, I found something by the Arditti Quartet that I had to look into, that's such a great banc...also appears that the New Series has recording of some Elliot Carter works, that's something else to get to. Still more new music to look into...praying for a long, healthy, non-destitute life! Quote
mjzee Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 3 hours ago, JSngry said: Yes, it's the new Kremer/Weinberg release that has cuahgt my ear and stimulated curiosity. Looking back, I found something by the Arditti Quartet that I had to look into, that's such a great banc...also appears that the New Series has recording of some Elliot Carter works, that's something else to get to. Still more new music to look into...praying for a long, healthy, non-destitute life! Here's a review of the Kremer/Weinberg from WSJ. PM me if you can't open it. It's titled "‘Chamber Symphonies—Piano Quintet’ by Gidon Kremer and Kremerata Baltica Review." https://www.wsj.com/articles/chamber-symphoniespiano-quintet-by-gidon-kremer-and-kremerata-baltica-review-1485194421 Quote
king ubu Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 @JSngry assuming your're aware this is the second two-disc set of Kremer's dedicated to Weinberg, right? Quote
JSngry Posted February 16, 2017 Author Report Posted February 16, 2017 I am now, yes. Had not been paying attention to the ECM New Series, or much of ECM to be honest. I see now there is something there! Quote
T.D. Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Though ECM New Series is a good label, for whatever reason I don't buy nearly as many as I once did. If you like Herbert Henck's piano playing, he's recorded a whole lot* a fair amount of the contemporary repertory for ECM NS. [FWIW, my opinion is mixed; I find he has a very light touch and isn't that suited to works with wide dynamic range. For instance, I like his recordings of Hans Otte's Das Buch der Klange and Mosolov (though the Mosolov pieces are more "interesting" than memorable), but would look elsewhere for Nancarrow and Barraque discs.] * [Added] Damn, shows how out of touch I am: I thought for a long while that Henck was practically ECM's "house pianist", but he seems to have stopped recording for them in the early oughts! His Mompou is probably worth checking out (though I haven't heard it). Edited February 16, 2017 by T.D. Quote
rostasi Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) I'm kind of the same way about Gidon Kremer. I was in love with the '70s version of Schnittke'sConcerto Grosso #1 with Grindenko on Melodiya in the early '80s, but by the early '90s, it seemed that he was showing up on all kinds of recordings that gave me the impression that he was becoming, at best, sloppy and, at worst, grandstanding and celebrity-like - almost Eugene Fodor-ish in slick presentation. Still, he brought Schnittke out of the shadows. Edited February 16, 2017 by rostasi Quote
JSngry Posted February 16, 2017 Author Report Posted February 16, 2017 Welcoming any and all opinions about this label, its output, etc. It's a world I know very little about past the earlier Monk/Reich things, and a little Part (who I actually like in doses). Most of it has been totally off my radar, by choice and/or otherwise, so...shine a light, please. Quote
T.D. Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 Few random impressions: I generally prefer discs devoted to a single composer, which may be a reason I don't buy so many ECM NS. Agreed that the Kurtag stuff is good. Re. Arditti, I recommend the Ruzicka, but happen to dislike Gavin Bryars's music (YMMV). In Renaissance polyphony, I generally find the Hilliard Ensemble best avoided (better alternatives elsewhere). Holliger is good, though I cut back because my appetite for 12-tone art songs is limited. B.A. Zimmermann is a favorite of mine; the Bach/Zimmermann disc with Thomas Demenga is good. The Lachenmann stuff is worth a listen, perhaps also the Scelsi (esp. the disc with Uitti) if you don't already own recordings. ECM NS records a lot of Tuur; I liked a couple of his recordings (rock-influenced classical) but had limited appetite. Ustvolskaya (for sure) and Gubaidulina may be worth investigating, subject to my comments on multi-composer CDs. The disc "Voci" with Berio's Folk Songs would be good if you don't already have recordings of the Folk Songs (the non-ECM with Cathy Berberian is preferable IMO). Quote
T.D. Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Just remembered this good one: I particularly like the Dutilleux piece 3 Strophes sur le nom Sacher. However, that (w. different performer) is also on the Erato Dutilleux box, which IMO is worth separately acquiring. (Or the bigger box, which is new to me.) Edited February 17, 2017 by T.D. Quote
soulpope Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 11 hours ago, T.D. said: * [Added] Damn, shows how out of touch I am: I thought for a long while that Henck was practically ECM's "house pianist", but he seems to have stopped recording for them in the early oughts! His Mompou is probably worth checking out (though I haven't heard it). I've been just hinted to Henck's Mompou New Series recording which is exceptional .... Quote
king ubu Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 4 hours ago, soulpope said: I've been just hinted to Henck's Mompou New Series recording which is exceptional .... Same here, and it indeed is! Quote
MomsMobley Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 pre-glacial Afanassiev, greater (emotionally & technically) than fucking Brendel & Uchida's careers, combined. all Heinz Holliger as a composer worth hearing as is are his recordings of 20th c. composers not as much findable Holliger / ECM youtube as expected / not all Kancheli is the best Kancheli A La Duduki (I believe Duduki is a type of Georgian dumpling, often served in an invigorating lamb broth) good for winter ice storms and summer droughts on the prairie or steppes alike Quote
soulpope Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, MomsMobley said: pre-glacial Afanassiev, greater (emotionally & technically) than fucking Brendel & Uchida's careers, combined. Another thumbs up for Afanassiev`s wondrous view on Schubert .... Edited February 19, 2017 by soulpope Quote
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