Hank Mobley In Holland

[Cyril]

I wasn't born at that time.  I'm reading now a part of a book by Rein de Graaff. He played with Hank Mobley too. It's in Dutch.

[Niko]

I linked to that concert review from Groningen somewhere above where the reviewer seemed rather unhappy about Pim Jacobs and claimed that the music finally clicked in the one set where de Graaff played behind Mobley (at least that's what I extracted from the Dutch text - that Dutch newspaper archive is amazing! and "Ruud Jacobs was de enige die niveau had" seems hard to misunderstand)

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

5 hours ago, Niko said:

slightly different band but still the same TV show, right? (stuff I learned when catching up on Dutch jazz in the last few days, after Wessel Ilcken, the drummer/leader/husband of Rita Reys died, pianist Pim Jacobs married Rita but the drummers in the band kept fluctuating - but at least he had his own TV show). The online catalogue of the Dutch Jazz Archive only lists a CD-R with the session coming from an audiotape (KO121) that also contains sessions with Maynard Ferguson in Mobley's/Montgomery's place, and a recording of Art Farmer/Jimmy Heath/Mal Waldron/Jimmy Woode/Steve McCall

http://catalogusmcn.nl/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=ko121

 

find of the day was this collection of photographs though, among many others, watch out for Dexter Gordon in the lower right corner of #27

https://archief.amsterdam/inventarissen/inventaris/30785.nl.html#

 

 

and hank recorded w/ rita before any of that in 1956!!!!!

[Cyril]

Rita recorded with Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers (Hank on some tracks). See 'The Cool Voice of Rita Reys'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cool_Voice_of_Rita_Reys

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

yea! theres the with art blakey side, and with other ppl different session side

[Cyril]

 Jan Brouwer, Office Manager at 'The Dutch Jazz Archive' told me:  'The Hank Mobley album is coming soon. Keep checking':   http://www.jazzarchief.nl/

Edited February 6, 2017 by Cyril

[romualdo]

3 hours ago, Cyril said:

 Jan Brouwer, Office Manager at 'The Dutch Jazz Archive' told me:  'The Hank Mobley album is coming soon. Keep checking':   http://www.jazzarchief.nl/

wonderful news - would rather buy it from jazz messengers than HMV Japan

[Dan Gould]

2 hours ago, romualdo said:

wonderful news - would rather buy it from jazz messengers than HMV Japan

Yeah I think its early March was the date and the Japanese issue is late April which means jazzmessengers should have it sooner, too.

[clifford_thornton]

sweet. Can't wait. And it is a legit CD, seems like, if it is being released by the Dutch Jazz Archive.

[Cyril]

Yep, its early March !!!

[Rooster_Ties]

Not to get us too far off-topic, but where the hell is some unreleased live *Joe Henderson* from this same era??

I, for one, am shocked virtually NO *live* Henderson fronting his own band (playing his own book) has ever come to light from the 1960's (not even in trading circles, that I'm aware of).  The only things that are even close are the Erich Kleinschuster thing (this 2CD set, with mostly Clifford Jordan, and some Carmell Jones too) -- and the 2 discs on Verve with Wynton Kelly, Paul Chambers, and Jimmy Cobb (but they don't do even ONE Henderson tune).

Sorry, off-topic, I know.

[jazzbo]

There are the two discs put out by Verve. . . and a few in trading circles, but not much.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

hank sure could of filled up a setlist w/ all hank songs, im sure at some point he did this

[clifford_thornton]

4 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said:

Not to get us too far off-topic, but where the hell is some unreleased live *Joe Henderson* from this same era??

I, for one, am shocked virtually NO *live* Henderson fronting his own band (playing his own book) has ever come to light from the 1960's (not even in trading circles, that I'm aware of).  The only things that are even close are the Erich Kleinschuster thing (this 2CD set, with mostly Clifford Jordan, and some Carmell Jones too) -- and the 2 discs on Verve with Wynton Kelly, Paul Chambers, and Jimmy Cobb (but they don't do even ONE Henderson tune).

Sorry, off-topic, I know.

off-topic but an interesting question, as it's true you don't see much in terms of vault material from that era. Which is weird because he led some great bands and had a serious book.

[mikeweil]

I remember from a conversation I had with Joe Henderson that he preferred doing standard material with musicians other than his working band because he never had the rehearsal time he needed to get his own tunes (or the Strayhorm material) to sound the way he wanted it.

That said, it is sad there are no live tapes of his bands from the sixties. There are several musicians lacking live recordings - Cal Tjader is another example, on tour all the time, but rarely taped live for radio or by fans. 

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

where are we at this week with this- any new updates?

[Cyril]

The guy from 'The Dutch Jazz Archive' told me early March.

http://www.jazzarchief.nl/winkel/

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

so are well all buying directly from them, is that the best way receive it, in the States?

[Chuck Nessa]

probably in a mail box or on a doorstep.

[Hardbopjazz]

 

Here is the cover. It see it on Amazon from a seller. Don't know where it ships from. 

Edited February 16, 2017 by Hardbopjazz

[Cyril]

I've sent this cover to the guy I mentioned above.   
In the meantime I had a look at Amazon by myself, the date is..... April 26, 2017 !!!
 

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

the title sounds like it could of been lifted off a hank autograph he wrote while there. 

[Hardbopjazz]

This is the only Hank Mobley book I know about.

[Gheorghe]

yeah I have this book but I was a bit disappointed. Same about the book about Jackie McLean. Somehow I think another author would have gathered much more informations about the artists and their music.....

[Niko]

On 2/3/2017 at 3:07 PM, Niko said:

The final clip on this site (Frank Jochemsen aan tafel) seems to discuss this upcoming jazzarchief release (the clip is from last December and apparently matters were still more uncertain then).

http://www.nposoulenjazz.nl/colive/uitzending/389411

importantly, starting at minute 6 there is a track of about 9 minutes from the concert (Like someone in love). This is apparently not the recording from the youtube clip but rather from 29 March 1968 at the B14 club in Rotterdam with

 

I am pretty sure that the album title comes from a card Hank Mobley wrote in Holland. In that radio show I linked to earlier in this thread (see above), Frank Jochemsen tells about finding the tapes, and the way I understand it (my Dutch is almost non-existent), the radio show was deleted by the radio station, but he found a copy of the tape together with a card from Hank with the text from the album cover on it in the private archives of the club owner