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The Weston is essential...heavenly. Outstanding music and stellar remastering job by Malcolm Addey. The Jones is real good, but I frankly don't think it's quite as hot as some others here. Jones was a very fine trumpeter, and there's some really strong dates here but some others are not as good, and ultimately this is music that's firmly rooted within the conventions of the era and a little on the generic side. That sounds more negative than I mean it to - it's a great box. But the Weston is a cut above, you get to hear the beginnings of a true original. Sure there's some Monk and Ellington influence but ultimately he carved a very distinctive niche out for himself.

Anyway, congratulations, you'll love both of these fine sets.

Edited by DrJ
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Made it through yet another layoff/restructuring Friday, bought the Bud Shank/Bob Cooper Select on Saturday. The perfect way to alleviate that nagging survivor's guilt.

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Thanks for the feedback folks. I must admit that the Weston is the one that intrigues me the most.

DTMX: It's too bad that people need to feel guilty about having a job these days, but it is decent of you to empathize with those less fortunate.

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I think (hope) DrJ's post came across stronger than he meant. The Carmell box is worth the price for the first (quintet) disc alone and the final disc "seals the deal". You can consider the middle disc as a bonus.

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Chuck:

I think (hope) DrJ's post came across stronger than he meant. The Carmell box is worth the price for the first (quintet) disc alone and the final disc "seals the deal". You can consider the middle disc as a bonus.

It is good to hear your expert opinion Chuck. And I didn't take DrJ's review as a put-down, just an honest appraisal. One of the basic truths that emerges from this forum is that even though we are all jazz enthusiasts, the way various artists and sessions strike us varies quite a bit.

I feel pretty confident that I will like the Jones- the references to Clifford Brown in the Mosaic propaganda, and the time period (early 1960's) are what sold me.

Guest Chaney
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I've been wanting to get the Carmell disc for quite some time but I had to get the Patton first.  I'm sure you all understand.

:D

Shouldn't the first two Selects be hitting the streets pretty soon?

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Shouldn't the first two Selects be hitting the streets pretty soon?

At a higher price than Mosaic charged.

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Shouldn't the first two Selects be hitting the streets pretty soon?

At a higher price than Mosaic charged.

The list price will certainly be higher. $49.98 is the list price I've seen quoted in the Mosaic brochure.

Some list and retail prices of a few Blue Note sets at Cd universe:

Herbie Nichols - 3 CD set $53.98 list/ $42.69 retail

Getz Roost - 3 CD set $38.98 list/ $34.85 retail

Bud Powell - 4 CD set $55.98 list/ $52.98 retail

Monk - 4 CD set $55.98 list/ $48.95 retail

The pricing and spread between retail and list is all over the place. But if the set lists at $49.98 it seems it would most like retail in the low $40s. The pre-order price through CD Universe, though, could dip below $39. Look at the Dave Brubeck pricing:

Dave Brubeck - For All Time - 5 CDs $44.98 list/$31.49 pre-order

Personally, I'd rather give my money to directly to Mosaic and do. :tup I just hope that if the pre-order price or perhaps even the retail price is below $39 that people don't flip out.

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i´m with you on this too Ed. i´m happy seeing my money being transferred to Mosaic account...

about the Carmell Select, i wasn't familiar at all with any of these sessions and it was a wonderful surprise for me. my favorite Select so far!

Marcus Oliveira

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