Elvin Jones on Douglas (unissued)

[clifford_thornton]

Having trouble finding the details online, but I recall reading about an Elvin Jones record for Douglas that went unissued and may have included "free" players like Byard Lancaster, Dave Burrell and Sonny Sharrock. My memory is foggy but I believe I read about this session in a discography (Lord?) and now can't seem to trace it.

Any help would be much appreciated.

[mikeweil]

Can't find anything like this in the Lord disco.

[JSngry]

Never heard of this before...???

[felser]

I would love to hear this!

[JSngry]

With that personnel,  it almost kinda looks like a very late 60s BN date, one of those wide - open things that Duke Pearson produced.

[mjzee]

Since Byard Lancaster and Dave Burrell played on the Wildflowers loft sessions, which were produced by Douglas, could it have been recorded around 1976?

[Niko]

here's a notice from the 7 June 1969 Billboard "Douglas Repackaging Jazz Albums for Spanish Market" where it says: "Douglas' initial tie with Gema [the Spanish label] covers about 12 albums including "new jazz" product by artists such as Eric Dolphy, Dave Burrell, Elvin Jones, Paul Bley and Ric Colbeck, [...]". Is there anything else by Jones that could have been meant here?

Edited March 21, 2016 by Niko

[clifford_thornton]

Yeah, I saw that reference. I remember reading about it and being taken by the personnel being exactly the people that it was claimed Jones detested when Coltrane was bringing them into the band. But for the life of me I can't find the personnel list itself.

The Colbeck may have been the Pixie session, which was being shopped around after that label folded.

[optatio]

Two of them here, but no more details:

Byard Lancaster: (Unreleased session for Douglas Records) 1970

http://music.hyperreal.org/labels/axiom/sharrockdisco.html 

Edited March 21, 2016 by optatio

[clifford_thornton]

That could be it and Elvin is on the date...

[Homefromtheforest]

Good to know there's still stuff buried out there waiting to surface one day..just when you think everything's been reissued!!

[readyrudy30315]

On 3/21/2016 at 11:33 PM, JSngry said:

With that personnel,  it almost kinda looks like a very late 60s BN date, one of those wide - open things that Duke Pearson produced.

Been a while since ive been here.But to my knowledge.Ive never heard anything about this date and session.And never ever heard about uncle Duke producing this date at all.He and Elvin did fo a few things.But this does not ring a bell.I could be wrong though.Because he wore many hats.And was involved in many things.Some even i dont know about.Shoutout to you JSngry.

 

[JSngry]

Oh, I've go no idea whether or not it actually was that, just saying that it looks like it could have been. But your uncle did produce some very open BN dates, like Super Nova.

[clifford_thornton]

On 3/21/2016 at 6:39 AM, Niko said:

here's a notice from the 7 June 1969 Billboard "Douglas Repackaging Jazz Albums for Spanish Market" where it says: "Douglas' initial tie with Gema [the Spanish label] covers about 12 albums including "new jazz" product by artists such as Eric Dolphy, Dave Burrell, Elvin Jones, Paul Bley and Ric Colbeck, [...]". Is there anything else by Jones that could have been meant here?

It was a Douglas session that was only assembled and rehearsed: Colbeck, Lancaster, Sharrock, Burrell, Sirone and Elvin Jones. No recording known.

Case closed I guess.