70's Cannonball Albums Finally on CD

[JCR1992]

I just saw that dusty groove will be releasing Music, You All and The Price You Got To Pay To Be Free on CD in May. 

https://www.dustygroove.com/item/788179

https://www.dustygroove.com/item/788181

I do like most of the Black Messiah but there are songs on there that I simply just have to pass. Are these two albums similar better or worse? 

[jazzbo]

Thanks for the heads up on these.

I actually think that Music, You All and The Price you Got to Pay to be Free are great albums. The latter will be most like Black Messiah I think . . . . Even I don't like all the material on both these, but I love what I do love on the album, and Cannon was playing at the top of his game, and reaching out. . . . We lost Cannon way too soon.

[Teasing the Korean]

The Price You Got to Pay has the greatest album cover ever.

I have it on LP and reel-to-reel!  

[JCR1992]

2 hours ago, jazzbo said:

Thanks for the heads up on these.

I actually think that Music, You All and The Price you Got to Pay to be Free are great albums. The latter will be most like Black Messiah I think . . . . Even I don't like all the material on both these, but I love what I do love on the album, and Cannon was playing at the top of his game, and reaching out. . . . We lost Cannon way too soon.

Well I can't wait to get both in May. I'm just thankful they've finally been released on CD. I went to YouTube to listen to a few tracks from Music, You All and I enjoyed it! I definitley agree. It's great he has so much music out but I would've loved to see what else he would do for the 2nd half of the 70's and at least into the 80's. 

[JSngry]

Music You All has a kind of "leftovers" feel to it, but The Price...is a great record, I think. It's all over the place stylistically, but that's very much the point, I think.

I've found that there are cuts I will go to a lot more than others when sampling the album, but it's kinda like going to your favorite scenes from a movie. You can do that, or you can watch the whole move straight through. It works either way.

Here's the two lead cuts, and check out Zawinul/Booker/McCurdy on both. This was populist music that gave as much as it took.

 

[felser]

I'm not a big fan of either (the vocalizing is hideous to me), but will pick up both for ole times sake.  Time and place, ya know?

[JSngry]

History would love to erase Rick Holmes. Hell, there are times when I would like to erase Rick Holmes. But it is our duty as evolved creatures of the eternally ambivalent to not do that, because that would be a lie, and a lie destroys the ambivalence, and without ambivalence, what do you have left to play with?

Besides, even though he's not always right, when he is right, he's right.

 

[Teasing the Korean]

2 hours ago, JSngry said:

History would love to erase Rick Holmes. Hell, there are times when I would like to erase Rick Holmes.

"Soul Zodiac" is better than 99.99% of the records that are routinely discussed by 99.99% of the regulars here. 

[felser]

YMMV greatly.  Mine does.

[rostasi]

13 hours ago, JCR1992 said:

 

 

I just saw that dusty groove will be releasing Music, You All and The Price You Got To Pay To Be Free on CD in May. 

I like em both - especially "The Price You Got to Pay to Be Free" (y'all!)
Forever, I'll remember my dear mother barging into my bedroom accusing me
of stealing her copy of "The Price...". It ended with me having to go thru her
stash of LPs just to show her that I actually had my own copy too.

Soul Zodiac got lots of play too! 8-track, reel-to-reel, and LPs...

Edited February 29, 2016 by rostasi

[JCR1992]

On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 0:37 PM, JSngry said:

Music You All has a kind of "leftovers" feel to it, but The Price...is a great record, I think. It's all over the place stylistically, but that's very much the point, I think.

I've found that there are cuts I will go to a lot more than others when sampling the album, but it's kinda like going to your favorite scenes from a movie. You can do that, or you can watch the whole move straight through. It works either way.

Here's the two lead cuts, and check out Zawinul/Booker/McCurdy on both. This was populist music that gave as much as it took.

 

I love Rumpelstiltskin! I have several different versions but my favorite is on In Person. This one is very good. I also checked out 1-2-3-Go-O-O-O! That was good as well! I'm looking forward to this. 

[JSngry]

I have a good time with this general period of Cannonball's output, the late-Zawinul-into-George Duke years. The dude was trying almost literally everything, but the one constant was Booker/McCurdy underneath, and those two were deep in the pocket no matter what, when, or where. No matter what's on top, that's on the bottom, always..

and Zawinul - this is Zawinul's last record with the band, and listen to where he is relative to where he went next, and it's not too terribly different, actually. The "convenient" history is that Zawinul wrote a bunch of funky hits for Cannonbal and then went off to make some "creative" music. The reality is much more complicated than that, much more complicated.

[jazzbo]

Absolutely Jim. This is some very good music of its time and any time. Though I admit that like John a little of some of the singing goes a long way.

[JSngry]

Rick Holmes in NO way "sings"!!!!!

[jazzbo]

I was thinking more of "Jr." Not a fan.

[JSngry]

Oh, ok, I'm not either. He sounds like a kid, which of course he is, but these are some grownass men he's sounding like a kid with.

otoh, as a "family business" move, I find no fault. The young man went on to have a good solid career in "the industry", and no doubt the exposure (as in both getting it and seeing it) firsthand from the family business helped. Hey, I'd do that for my kid if it was there to do.

[jazzbo]

I'm in agreement and I tolerate and don't skip the tunes on my lps. . . but I'm not really a fan. Still I love that Cannon and crew were bringing everything to the plate and I admit I find some of Cannon's playing at this time among his very best.

[Teasing the Korean]

17  posts and no mention of THEE GREAT DAVID AXELROD!  

[king ubu]

Great news for sure!

I think was Jim (who else ) who mentioned after the big Hancock Columbia box that a Cannonball Capitol box would be mighty cool and alike in some respects ... and that this would never happen - too true, I'm afraid, but I love the idea and I'm glad to see more of his late albums making re-appearance!