MLB 2016 Season Thread Of Discussions

[Dan Gould]

There is no way a guy who plays a third of a season should be considered for the RoY.

[soulpope]

  On 9/28/2016 at 9:13 AM, Dan Gould said:

There is no way a guy who plays a third of a season should be considered for the RoY.

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Do understand the standard RoY requierements ... but the feats achieved by Sanchez happened during the last 1-2 months (of the regular season), where I tend to believe things are even more challenging - so this is a very special situation .... but RoY or not, Gary Sanchez made a lasting impressions - and I think David Price will likely confirm  .....

Edited September 28, 2016 by soulpope

[paul secor]

  On 9/28/2016 at 9:13 AM, Dan Gould said:

There is no way a guy who plays a third of a season should be considered for the RoY.

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Tell that to Willie McCovey.

[soulpope]

  On 9/28/2016 at 10:16 AM, paul secor said:

Tell that to Willie McCovey.

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Right on ....

[Dan Gould]

  On 9/28/2016 at 9:39 AM, soulpope said:

Do understand the standard RoY requierements ... but the feats achieved by Sanchez happened during the last 1-2 months (of the regular season), where I tend to believe things are even more challenging - so this is a very special situation .... but RoY or not, Gary Sanchez made a lasting impressions - and I think David Price will likely confirm  .....

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Have to completely disagree on performance in the first few months being such a challenge. Its easier for hitters when the league isn't familiar with them. If I'm not mistaken Sanchez had come far closer to Earth in the past three weeks before hitting a few more home runs recently.

A couple of years ago the Red Sox had a rookie third baseman who looked like a 30 homer guy until everyone figured out he can't hit a breaking ball to save his life. I believe he's now floating between the San Diego AAA affiliate and the majors.

So let's see how Sanchez does when he stops getting fastballs in his wheelhouse, before we start comparing him to all-time greats like McCovey.

[soulpope]

  On 9/28/2016 at 12:08 PM, Dan Gould said:

Have to completely disagree on performance in the first few months being such a challenge. Its easier for hitters when the league isn't familiar with them. If I'm not mistaken Sanchez had come far closer to Earth in the past three weeks before hitting a few more home runs recently.

A couple of years ago the Red Sox had a rookie third baseman who looked like a 30 homer guy until everyone figured out he can't hit a breaking ball to save his life. I believe he's now floating between the San Diego AAA affiliate and the majors.

So let's see how Sanchez does when he stops getting fastballs in his wheelhouse, before we start comparing him to all-time greats like McCovey.

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Don`t want this becoming too obstrusive - just wondering than why not more rookies receiving pitches in their "wheelhouse" within a certain "unfamilar" period (for pitchers) don`t score similar results like Sanchez .... but again it is - this way or the other - a great story and having said that, I also did enjoy the 2016 run by Trevor Story for the Colorado Rockies .... I simply believe this game is in heavy need of new "faces" or potential signature players .... just my 5 cent worth ....

[paul secor]

  On 9/28/2016 at 12:08 PM, Dan Gould said:

Have to completely disagree on performance in the first few months being such a challenge. Its easier for hitters when the league isn't familiar with them. If I'm not mistaken Sanchez had come far closer to Earth in the past three weeks before hitting a few more home runs recently.

A couple of years ago the Red Sox had a rookie third baseman who looked like a 30 homer guy until everyone figured out he can't hit a breaking ball to save his life. I believe he's now floating between the San Diego AAA affiliate and the majors.

So let's see how Sanchez does when he stops getting fastballs in his wheelhouse, before we start comparing him to all-time greats like McCovey.

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No one is saying he's a future McCovey, but the Rookie of the Year Award is for that year, not a prediction of a full career. No one knew that Willie McCovey would end up in the Hall of Fame when he finished his rookie season. And regardless of whether anyone likes it or doesn't like it, and regardless of what the future holds, Gary Sanchez will receive votes for Rookie of the Year.

Edited September 28, 2016 by paul secor

[JSngry]

Neftali Feliz says hi.

[soulpope]

  On 9/28/2016 at 6:41 PM, JSngry said:

Neftali Feliz says hi.

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Probably giving it all early has a different consequence for pitchers .....

[JSngry]

That was one of the saddest things I've ever seen. Big fan of the Rangers org here, overall, but that one....not good. They got greedy and tried to get too much too soon.

[jazztrain]

  On 9/28/2016 at 12:08 PM, Dan Gould said:

Have to completely disagree on performance in the first few months being such a challenge. Its easier for hitters when the league isn't familiar with them. If I'm not mistaken Sanchez had come far closer to Earth in the past three weeks before hitting a few more home runs recently.

A couple of years ago the Red Sox had a rookie third baseman who looked like a 30 homer guy until everyone figured out he can't hit a breaking ball to save his life. I believe he's now floating between the San Diego AAA affiliate and the majors.

So let's see how Sanchez does when he stops getting fastballs in his wheelhouse, before we start comparing him to all-time greats like McCovey.

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Dan,

The ex-Red Sox third baseman is Will Middlebrooks.  He's currently in the Milwaukee Brewers system.

[duaneiac]

  On 9/28/2016 at 8:29 PM, jazztrain said:

Dan,

The ex-Red Sox third baseman is Will Middlebrooks.  He's currently in the Milwaukee Brewers system.

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I don't follow baseball anymore, but was he any relation to the late bassist Wilfred Middlebrooks?

[jazztrain]

  On 9/28/2016 at 8:36 PM, duaneiac said:

I don't follow baseball anymore, but was he any relation to the late bassist Wilfred Middlebrooks?

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Not to my knowledge.

Here's Wilfred:

 

Here's Will from when he was with the Red Sox:

 

 

[soulpope]

  On 9/28/2016 at 6:17 PM, paul secor said:

No one is saying he's a future McCovey, but the Rookie of the Year Award is for that year, not a prediction of a full career. No one knew that Willie McCovey would end up in the Hall of Fame when he finished his rookie season. And regardless of whether anyone likes it or doesn't like it, and regardless of what the future holds, Gary Sanchez will receive votes for Rookie of the Year.

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And he doesn`t seem to be a "one trick pony" neither .... :

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v1194289783/statcast-sanchez-858-mph-throw-cuts-down-hanley

[Tim McG]

Well...it's go hard or go home time for the Giants.

However, after sweeping the Dodgers last weekend (I was there Saturday; great game), the inclusion of rookie Ty Blach [and his 8 inning gem] and Romo closing out the last two games with a nifty slider, anything can happen. If the Giants can get past the Mets tonight, all bets are off. This is one dangerous team in the playoffs.

GO Giants!

Edited October 5, 2016 by Tim McG

[catesta]

Yeah, Giants are going to be tough. I'm looking forward to the game tonight and hopefully a Mets victory.

[Tim McG]

Should be a good one, Catesta. Your  Ace vs our Ace.

Though, I'm hoping for a Giants win myself. 

[Soulstation1]

Whoever wins the Tribe Vs Red Sox series goes to the World Series 

Edited October 5, 2016 by Soulstation1

[Tim McG]

Well, congratulations, Mets. 

The safe  call that wasn't and a two ball strike out all in the 4th. I think it is pretty obvious who MLB wants to win.

Wow.

[Tim McG]

To win, the Giants will have to beat the Mets and the Umps.

Amazing.

 

Edited October 6, 2016 by Tim McG

[Tim McG]

Gillaspie! Three run jack!

MadBum goes 9.

GIANTS WIN! GIANTS WIN! GIANTS WIN!

[catesta]

  On 10/5/2016 at 8:25 PM, Soulstation1 said:

Whoever wins the Tribe Vs Red Sox series goes to the World Series 

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I'm definitely pulling for Cleveland the rest of the way.

 

 

  On 10/6/2016 at 2:08 AM, Tim McG said:

Gillaspie! Three run jack!

MadBum goes 9.

GIANTS WIN! GIANTS WIN! GIANTS WIN!

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Bumgarner is a superstar. I think both pitched phenomenal but in the end the Mets bats really let Syndergaard down.  Congrats to SF and to fans like Tim.

[Scott Dolan]

As long as the Cubs lose and their largely classless fan base suffers further, I'm happy. 

[Tim McG]

  On 10/6/2016 at 2:18 PM, catesta said:

Bumgarner is a superstar. I think both pitched phenomenal but in the end the Mets bats really let Syndergaard down.  Congrats to SF and to fans like Tim.

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Thanks, Catesta.

It was a real struggle and your guys showed me something last night, too. A tough team. They'll be back.

[JSngry]

I spend the day traveling and come home to a 10-1 final? Gee, that's unpleasant!