AfricaBrass Posted March 31, 2004 Report Posted March 31, 2004 I shouldn't have read this thread. I've had the NO Jazz and the TKM sets on my radar for a while now and decided to grab both of them before they are gone. You did the wise thing! My care package from our friends at Mosaic just arrived. I don't even know where to start. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted March 31, 2004 Report Posted March 31, 2004 I'm just sitting here staring at Jeff's avatar... Quote
Jazzmoose Posted March 31, 2004 Report Posted March 31, 2004 The Anita and the June/Julie ones are freaky enough, but that Saxophone Colossus... Quote
Brad Posted March 31, 2004 Report Posted March 31, 2004 I've got three of the sessions that are on this set and while they're nice, I'll have to be the one dissenting voice here and let this one go. I'll get probably get slammed for this but these guys overall don't excite me that much. Quote
Bill Nelson Posted April 3, 2004 Report Posted April 3, 2004 "...but these guys overall don't excite me that much." Bradski, you fascinate me. Tell me more. Tell me anything specific. Your vague, uniformed riposte has given the deep-freeze to this thread for the last 50 hours. If you don't understand Tristano and Konitz, perhaps you're still young. And years from now, when you can truly hear how Tristano and Konitz are dealing with musical space and playing on the 'inside track', maybe you can cop this set for a grand. Whatever Tristano you've already got has been rendered obsolete. The tape transfers and CD mastering of Malcolm Addey are unsurpassed. At some point, may you have the wisdom to hear and know. Quote
JSngry Posted April 3, 2004 Report Posted April 3, 2004 Or maybe it just don't do it for him, in which case, I'd not sweat it. Quote
Bill Nelson Posted April 3, 2004 Report Posted April 3, 2004 Point well taken. I'll cool it down. Written support for Tristano is better-stated on another thread. (See: the the T/K/M Mosaic Liner Notes, Larry Kart reply) Obviously, not everyone 'gets it' right away. One reason why this set will max-out at 4,500 on a 7,500 limit. Quote
JSngry Posted April 3, 2004 Report Posted April 3, 2004 (edited) Hey, don't get me wrong, I think it's an essential set of superb (and important) music. But I also know that the Tristano thing just never reaches some people, and it's not necessarily a "defect" on their part, if you know what I mean. Different strokes, etc... Edited April 3, 2004 by JSngry Quote
Jazzdog Posted April 3, 2004 Report Posted April 3, 2004 I have finally had a chance to check out the Reece and T/K/M sets. I recently decided to stop buying cd's until I can listen to and absorb all this new music. I listened to the first two discs of the Reece set and parts of discs 1 and 6 of the Tristano sets. The Reece material (The only music I have hard from this is the Comin' On cd) is pleasant enough, which is to say that it's excellent, everything I think late 50's Hard Bop should be. This set is just flawless!! As for the Tristano, I am kinda new to this kind of music, but I am learning a bunch about things that i was unfamiliar with until now. I guess I should say that I have always had this strange bias against, for the lack of a better word, white guys playing jazz. Not any more. The Trsitano live stuff on disk one is so dense, yet challenging that it was difficult for me to fully enjoy on first hearing. I love Konitz' tone, so thats not a problem, but Tristano's playing perplexes me. My lack of ability to describe how I feel about this in writing, well if you have the set, read Larry Kart's notes. I agree with everything he says...the parts I understand anyways . Anyways, I cruised up to the last disc to absorb more Marsh and Konitz and I can totally get behind what they are doing. The tonal complexities and the advanced harmonic structures bring the whole thing back towards the Reece/BN kinda thing I adore so much, yet brings something so much more fascinating to the table. Quote
John B Posted April 4, 2004 Report Posted April 4, 2004 Man, I'd forgotten how quickly Mosaic ships! I'm spinning ths first T/K/M disc now and loving it! After a few years of not buying any Mosaics I think I am back off the wagon again. Quote
AfricaBrass Posted April 4, 2004 Report Posted April 4, 2004 Man, I'd forgotten how quickly Mosaic ships! I'm spinning ths first T/K/M disc now and loving it! After a few years of not buying any Mosaics I think I am back off the wagon again. That's great, John! They do ship quick. It's a nice wagon to fall off. Quote
Brad Posted April 4, 2004 Report Posted April 4, 2004 "...but these guys overall don't excite me that much." Bradski, you fascinate me. Tell me more. Tell me anything specific. Your vague, uniformed riposte has given the deep-freeze to this thread for the last 50 hours. If you don't understand Tristano and Konitz, perhaps you're still young. And years from now, when you can truly hear how Tristano and Konitz are dealing with musical space and playing on the 'inside track', maybe you can cop this set for a grand. Whatever Tristano you've already got has been rendered obsolete. The tape transfers and CD mastering of Malcolm Addey are unsurpassed. At some point, may you have the wisdom to hear and know. Bill, You may be right in certain respects. Maybe I just don't get them yet. Unfortunately, my resources are limited and while I'd like to check them out, I just can't do it right now. BTW, you overestimate my ability to stop the presses on this thread. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted April 4, 2004 Report Posted April 4, 2004 At least use civilian ripostes from now on, Brad... Quote
John B Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 If you are at all on the fence regarding the Atlantic New Orleans Jazz Sessions do not let this one pass you by! I bought this not really knowing what exactlky I would be hearing. I am on disc two now and this is some of the best music (previously unknown to me) that I have heard in a long time. I am loving every minute of these discs. The TKM set is great, I have really been digging the first three discs so far but the Atlantic NO set wins first prize as my "pleasant surprise" of the year. This will most definitely result in another purchase from Mosaic next month... B) Quote
Bill Nelson Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 Jazzmoose caught my typo. Meant to say 'unformed', not uniformed. Both you and Brad were civil, not civilian, in your ripostes. Appreciated, and I'll post with greater respect. Quote
wesbed Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 If you are at all on the fence regarding the Atlantic New Orleans Jazz Sessions do not let this one pass you by! I bought this not really knowing what exactlky I would be hearing. I am on disc two now and this is some of the best music (previously unknown to me) that I have heard in a long time. I am loving every minute of these discs. I'm with John B on the New Orleans Jazz box. I'd never heard this style of music and it was quite a pleasant surprise for me. The playing is good and the quality of the sound exceptional. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 Jazzmoose caught my typo. Meant to say 'unformed', not uniformed. Both you and Brad were civil, not civilian, in your ripostes. Appreciated, and I'll post with greater respect. Don't mind me, Bill; I'm just a smart ass... Quote
king ubu Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 If you are at all on the fence regarding the Atlantic New Orleans Jazz Sessions do not let this one pass you by! I bought this not really knowing what exactlky I would be hearing. I am on disc two now and this is some of the best music (previously unknown to me) that I have heard in a long time. I am loving every minute of these discs. The TKM set is great, I have really been digging the first three discs so far but the Atlantic NO set wins first prize as my "pleasant surprise" of the year. Same here, only two months ago, already! Get it while you can! ubu (and PLEEEEEZE stop buying the VeeJays! I need to have them but don't know yet how I can...) Quote
wesbed Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 (and PLEEEEEZE stop buying the VeeJays! I need to have them but don't know yet how I can...) Ubu: You are somewhat safe regarding the Vee Jays while the Mosaic web site is down. Quote
king ubu Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 (and PLEEEEEZE stop buying the VeeJays! I need to have them but don't know yet how I can...) Ubu: You are somewhat safe regarding the Vee Jays while the Mosaic web site is down. Hey, why is it down again? I had access on friday!?! (Or did I only have access because it was still saved on my computer?) ubu Quote
JSngry Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 Blame the careless handling of Norah Jones specimens. Quote
Brad Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 Or maybe they were taking up their tax(es) but forgot to take up the carpet first Quote
Jazzmoose Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 Damn it, where's that Airborne truck! Quote
AfricaBrass Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 (and PLEEEEEZE stop buying the VeeJays! I need to have them but don't know yet how I can...) Sorry! I was just going to buy one, but.... that "Buy It" button is so easy to press. Quote
Alec Posted April 5, 2004 Report Posted April 5, 2004 About the Atlantic New Orleans Jazz Sessions, if I like the latest Preservation Hall issues will I like this one too? I'm on the fence. Somebody push me! (or direct me to samples) Quote
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