Ron S Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 Brahms, Piano Quartets Nos. 1-3 / Three Intermezzi for solo piano Marc-Andre Hamelin (piano), Leopold String Trio (Hyperion) Quote
Referentzhunter Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 5:38 AM, HutchFan said: Do you mean other Shostakovich symphonies in Haitink's cycle? Or do you mean other Shostakovich symphonies -- in general -- among the 15 that he composed? If it's the latter, I would suggest looking into the Fourth, Fifth, Ninth, Tenth, Thirteenth, and Fifteenth. IMO, the two most impressive recorded cycles of Shostakovich's symphonies were both made in the Soviet Union -- by conductors Kirill Kondrashin (with the Moscow PO, recorded between 1962 and 1975) and Gennadi Rozhdestvensky (with the USSR Ministry of Culture SO, recorded in the 1980s). Yes. It's magnificent. Haitink's cycle ... ? Quote
HutchFan Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: Haitink's cycle ... ? I love Haitink's DSCH 8. The others . . . not so much. They're a bit too staid and by-the-book for me. OTOH, others listeners love Haitink's cycle. IIRC, the Penguin Guide authors did. It all depends on what you're drawn to. For me, Shostakovich's music -- at heart -- should sound anguished and driven and despairing and sardonic. Haitink's temperament -- his coolness and reserve -- serves him very well in certain repertoire. But I think Shostakovich fares better with more extroverted conductors. And I think Russian/Soviet conductors who lived in the USSR can bring a special insight to DSCH's music. My 2 cents. Edited September 19, 2023 by HutchFan Quote
Referentzhunter Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, HutchFan said: I love Haitink's DSCH 8. The others . . . not so much. They're a bit too staid and by-the-book for me. OTOH, others listeners love Haitink's cycle. IIRC, the Penguin Guide authors did. It all depends on what you're drawn to. For me, Shostakovich's music -- at heart -- should sound anguished and driven and despairing and sardonic. Haitink's temperament -- his coolness and reserve -- serves him very well in certain repertoire. But I think Shostakovich fares better with more extroverted conductors. And I think Russian/Soviet conductors who lived in the USSR can bring a special insight to DSCH's music. My 2 cents. Haitink's Shostakovish is a little bit to 'cosey' indeed, especially if you compare his interpretations with the over-emotional Russian interpretations. The eight symphony is about 'metamorphose' so about ... surviving and celebrating ... post-war emotions. Haitink hits IT ... very well. Hear someone mentioning his 15 th (maybe i will have go on youtube). Bye the way ... i have the Kondrashin cycle as some of the Rohzdestvensky symphonies. I have the Barsai-cycle in high esteem too. Quote
HutchFan Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: Hear someone mentioning his 15 th (maybe i will have go on youtube). Haitink's recording of DSCH's 15th has its advocates, for sure. Give it a listen and see what you think. For my money, the finest 15th is the first -- the premiere recording -- made by DSCH's son Maksim for Melodiya: Pictured above: the U.S. release on Angel-Melodiya. IMO, this LP is one of the most powerful DSCH recordings ever made. 45 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: I have the Barsai-cycle in high esteem too. Yes, I agree. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 Picked this up a year ago but haven't spent any quality time with it - Quote
Referentzhunter Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 45 minutes ago, HutchFan said: For my money, the finest 15th is the first -- the premiere recording -- made by DSCH's son Maksim for Melodiya: Pictured above: the U.S. release on Angel-Melodiya. IMO, this LP is one of the most powerful DSCH recordings ever made. listening now... Thanks ! I'm learning slowly but surely. Quote
HutchFan Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: listening now... Thanks ! I'm learning slowly but surely. We're all learning from one another! 26 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: Picked this up a year ago but haven't spent any quality time with it - Wow. I didn't know about that set. Thanks! Quote
Referentzhunter Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, HutchFan said: We're all learning from one another! a record that has stayed with me after holding it in my hands in a large record hall (10 euro) is this one. haven't heard it, maybe i will have a listen on youtube now . Edited September 19, 2023 by Referentzhunter Quote
HutchFan Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) On 9/19/2023 at 1:02 PM, Referentzhunter said: a record that has stayed with me after holding it in my hands in a large record hall (10 euro) is this one. haven't heard it, maybe i will have a listen on youtube now . I'm not familiar with that one. I'll check it out. CORRECTION: I actually have this recording. It's in the big EMI box that I posted above. I'd just never seen that cover photo before, so I didn't recognize it. Edited September 21, 2023 by HutchFan Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, HutchFan said: Wow. I didn't know about that set. Thanks! I bought the set (new) in November 2021 from Amazon merchant OxfordshireEngland for half of the current asking price. I suggest you snoop around. Quote
HutchFan Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 38 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: I bought the set (new) in November 2021 from Amazon merchant OxfordshireEngland for half of the current asking price. I suggest you snoop around. Thanks for the tip. Quote
mikeweil Posted September 20, 2023 Report Posted September 20, 2023 After three attempts this finally arrived here - either my adress was truncated by postal labels or software. I just thanked their sales manager for his stubbornness - he mailed me and said this was the first time such problems arose in shipping. The music is wonderful. https://www.dominiquecorbiau.com Quote
HutchFan Posted September 20, 2023 Report Posted September 20, 2023 Debussy: Orchestral Works - I / Jean Martinon, Orchestre National de l'O.R.T.F. (EMI) Wonderful. Quote
Ron S Posted September 20, 2023 Report Posted September 20, 2023 Dvorak, Slavonic Dances Vaclav Neumann, Czech Philharmonic Orchestra (Supraphon) Quote
mjzee Posted September 20, 2023 Report Posted September 20, 2023 The Decca Sound - The Piano Edition, disc 13. Quote
HutchFan Posted September 20, 2023 Report Posted September 20, 2023 Disc 3: - Piano Sonata No.3 in F Minor, Op.5 - Intermezzo in E Major, Op.116/6 - Romance in F Major, Op.118/5 - 4 Ballades, Op.10 Quote
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