HutchFan Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) Earlier today: I love Jean Martinon's way with Debussy. His approach strikes me as perfectly balanced, both in terms of coolness and color. Others conductors may make this music sound more voluptuous, but the danger there is that it can also feel overheated. Martinon holds back ever so slightly; he just lets it happen -- so the music feels completely natural and unforced, like the wind on your face by the seaside. This subtle sense of restraint also strikes me as being quintessentially French, perfect for Debussy . . . and Roussel and Saint-Saëns and the rest. Edited December 8, 2022 by HutchFan Quote
mikeweil Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 8:38 AM, soulpope said: On 12/3/2022 at 9:40 AM, soulpope said: On 12/3/2022 at 10:47 AM, soulpope said: Some excellent choices! Today; Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 Still exploring the big Mitropoulos box Quote
HutchFan Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 Now: Disc 2 - works by Albéniz, Tárrega, Granados, Moreno Torroba, Esplá, Ponce, Lauro, and Pedrell Earlier: Quote
HutchFan Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 Mahler's Fifth Symphony again today: with the Philadelphia Orchestra Quote
mjzee Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 Only two more discs to go to complete listening to the Bruno Walter box (I'm not going to listen to the 8 discs of interviews and rehearsals). Quote
HutchFan Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, mjzee said: Only two more discs to go to complete listening to the Bruno Walter box (I'm not going to listen to the 8 discs of interviews and rehearsals). Did any particular performances bowl you over??? I love Walter's way with Brahms & Mahler. Coincidentally, I just ordered precisely that Bruckner recording a few days ago. 😉 Quote
mjzee Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Did any particular performances bowl you over??? I love Walter's way with Brahms & Mahler. Coincidentally, I just ordered precisely that Bruckner recording a few days ago. 😉 I still consider myself a neophyte when it comes to classical music. I buy these boxes and play them one disc at a time, often in the background, to acclimate myself to the music and see what I pick out. So what strikes me is sometimes the compositions or the composer, or sometimes how one conductor or orchestra differs from another. I don't know a lot of Bruckner (although a search of my collection reveals I have 8 discs: 4 by Walter, 2 by Szell, 1 by Haitink, and one by Runnicles), but this composition strikes me as reminiscent of Wagner. In general, I find Walter's results appealing: lush, detailed, lively, but not as hard-edged and energetic as, say, Szell. Does that at all jibe with your impressions? Quote
HutchFan Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, mjzee said: Does that at all jibe with your impressions? Yes! Very much so. Quote
mjzee Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 In my comparison of Bruckner with Wagner, it helped that the prior disc in the Walter box contained Wagner's Lohengrin, Siegfried Idyll and Tannhauser Ouverture & Bacchanale (Venusberg). The style of those were so striking that it stayed with me. Then, when I heard the Bruckner, I noted some similarities. I'm not sure I would have made that comparison if the Wagner disc was, say, 5 discs back. Quote
HutchFan Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 Yep. Bruckner considered Wagner to be his "master." So Bruckner's entire corpus is very much influenced by Wagner. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 It's important to remember Bruckner was an organist. I hear it in all the symphonies. Quote
soulpope Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 14 hours ago, HutchFan said: Yep. Bruckner considered Wagner to be his "master." So Bruckner's entire corpus is very much influenced by Wagner. His music is comparable to a cathedral's architecture .... Quote
HutchFan Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 14 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: It's important to remember Bruckner was an organist. I hear it in all the symphonies. Yes, I absolutely agree. Wagnerian chromaticism + those organ-like sonorities = Bruckner Now listening to this again: Yepes was an extraordinary guitarist. with his custom-made 10-string guitar Quote
soulpope Posted December 10, 2022 Report Posted December 10, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 12:21 AM, HutchFan said: Unsurprisingly ❤❤❤😇 .... Quote
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