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Referentzhunter Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 27-11-2021 at 10:59 PM, soulpope said: Stupendous .... For his Bach stuff, yes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HutchFan Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 Prokofiev: Symphony No. 5 / Rozhdestvensky, Moscow RSO (Melodiya) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soulpope Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 5 hours ago, HutchFan said: Prokofiev: Symphony No. 5 / Rozhdestvensky, Moscow RSO (Melodiya) Excellent .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, soulpope said: Excellent .... Oh yeah. In my book, Rozhdestvensky's Prokofiev recordings are without equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soulpope Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Oh yeah. In my book, Rozhdestvensky's Prokofiev recordings are without equal. We are sharing the same "book" ;-) ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peter Friedman Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 Mozart - Serenades K.239 "Serenata notturna" & K.525 "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" and Dvorak - String Quartet Op.96, "American" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Referentzhunter Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 22 hours ago, HutchFan said: Prokofiev: Symphony No. 5 / Rozhdestvensky, Moscow RSO (Melodiya) i'am curious about this set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: i'am curious about this set. Unfortunately, it's out of print -- and it fetches absurdly high prices in the used marketplace. But downloads still are available. Initially, I bought the downloads. But I've enjoyed the music so much that, over time, I've tracked down the music on vinyl. During the 70s, Melodiya partnered with various "Western" record labels to issue music outside of the USSR. These Prokofiev Symphonies were issued on Angel/Melodiya. I haven't heard any other conductor who captures the contradictory aspects of Prokofiev's music better than Rozhdestvensky. Lyrical and sarcastic. Innocent and knowing. Pounding and soft. If you'd like to sample, here's Rozh's performance of Prokofiev's Seventh Symphony: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Referentzhunter Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 3 hours ago, HutchFan said: Unfortunately, it's out of print -- and it fetches absurdly high prices in the used marketplace. But downloads still are available. Initially, I bought the downloads. But I've enjoyed the music so much that, over time, I've tracked down the music on vinyl. During the 70s, Melodiya partnered with various "Western" record labels to issue music outside of the USSR. These Prokofiev Symphonies were issued on Angel/Melodiya. I haven't heard any other conductor who captures the contradictory aspects of Prokofiev's music better than Rozhdestvensky. Lyrical and sarcastic. Innocent and knowing. Pounding and soft. If you'd like to sample, here's Rozh's performance of Prokofiev's Seventh Symphony: I don't want to be pretentious about my knowledge about these symphonies. I simply don't have a clue how they have to sound. I have the Weller set what i enjoyed more or less. Maybe Rohzdestensky's approach shedd more urgency. You mentioned; 'contradictory aspects' of Prokofiev's music, ... is that something he is wellknown for in general ? Interesting ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: I don't want to be pretentious about my knowledge about these symphonies. I simply don't have a clue how they have to sound. I have the Weller set what i enjoyed more or less. Maybe Rohzdestensky's approach shedd more urgency. You mentioned; 'contradictory aspects' of Prokofiev's music, ... is that something he is wellknown for in general ? Interesting ... I have heard a few of Weller's Prokofiev recordings, and I think they're very good. But Rozhdestvensky seems to find much more complexity and nuance in his interpretations. I think conductors from the Soviet Union (and Eastern Bloc in general) may have had insights into the music written by composers like Prokofiev, Shostakovich, and other Soviet composers. Not always, of course. It's not axiomatic. But in interviews Rozhdestvensky talked about having to explain some aspects of the music to "Western" orchestras who had no idea what life like was like under Stalin & communism. Of course -- unlike Shostakovich -- Prokofiev only returned to the USSR later in life. I don't mean to simplify his music in any way, make it all about Stalin or politics or anything like that. I just feel like Rozhdestvensky captures some sort of "Russian-ness" that's absent in many other interpretations I've heard. One other particularity about Prokofiev's Seventh, which I shared above: When it was written, Prokofiev had been denounced by the authorities in the USSR. He wrote the Seventh Symphony to get back in their good graces. Ostensibly, it was written as a "Children's Symphony" -- since proletarian simplicity was the order of the day. And, on one level, it is simple music. But, on another level, there's a darkness and a sadness that hangs over the music. That darkness and ambiguity "seeps" through. There's a double-meaning. Most wonderful art is paradoxical, and I think Rozhdestvensky mines this double-meaning-ness in Prokofiev's music more than others. **************** One last thought: If you enjoy Weller's readings, keep riding that horse. I don't mean to imply that I'm "right." I've just found that I enjoy Rozh's interpretations of Russian music. I'm a bit of Russia/USSR nerd, so digging about for these sorts of meanings is something that appeals to me. I don't mean to convey anything other than, "Listen to this! You might enjoy it too!" Edited November 30, 2021 by HutchFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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