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Referentzhunter Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Listening now to the first pianoconcerto and i do like it more as i expected. A surprise for me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 58 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: Listening now to the first pianoconcerto and i do like it more as i expected. A surprise for me.... Gould is not for everyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, David Ayers said: Gould is not for everyone... I strongly believe this wasn't his vision anyway .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David Ayers Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, soulpope said: I strongly believe this wasn't his vision anyway .... Just listening now. Apart from the fact that I dislike listening to recorded piano concertos, this is...not for everyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, David Ayers said: Just listening now. Apart from the fact that I dislike listening to recorded piano concertos .... So to put it simply at least it is not for you .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Referentzhunter Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, David Ayers said: Gould is not for everyone... A classical version is assessted by me by criteria as: technique (dynamique), are the intentions of the composer transferred as accurate and natural as possible ? I am pretty much a purist but . . . sometimes i hear such a natural fluidity in the playing of an artist/artists without changing the intentions of the composer to much that it is forgivable for me. 'Gould' seems to be a hit or a miss for me. P.S. still learning. 25 minutes ago, David Ayers said: Just listening now. Apart from the fact that I dislike listening to recorded piano concertos, this is...not for everyone... Listening to classical music grows, needs training. 40 minutes ago, soulpope said: I strongly believe this wasn't his vision anyway .... Right about that. Edited September 15, 2019 by Referentzhunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: Listening to classical music grows, needs training. Well for sure. With me it is overexposure I am worried about. So many concerts feature a piano concerto, often a warhorse. I quite like to hear them fresh, and in any case am not fond of them, so I have cut out the recorded ones, more or less, so as not to get bored. My next concert includes Rachmaninov 1, which I admit I can’t remember. After that, Tchaikovsky 1, which I can’t forget. After that, Shostakovich 2, Liszt 2 - you get the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peter Friedman Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Schubert - String Quartet D.353 Mozart - Piano Concerto No.12 (arranged for piano and string quintet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Longtime favorite. Schepkin has re-recorded the Partitas on the Steinway & Sons label...I really should hear them, but to date have not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) More Camerata Köln recordings - that Saturday concert sure inspired me to pull their CDs from the shelves. It's rare for such an ensemble to stay together that long, and with four founding members still on board! All other ensembles founded in the 1960's or 1970's have been dissolved or have changed personnel completely, and thus changed performance concepts and, IMHO, their level of playing has decreased. I saw the most recent edition of Concentus Muscius Vienna on TV recently and was disappointed. Camerata Köln still plays as vividly as in their early years, only wiser and more relaxed. Edited September 16, 2019 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Kart Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 A download of William Steinberg and the Pittsburgh Symphony playing in 1952 Darius Milhaud's remarkable 20-minute suite Protee (1917). Far more radical than anything else by Milhaud, it's like a cross between Le Sacre and Varese, and this to my knowledge is its best recording. I also have one on EMI by Abravanel (somewhat bland) and one from 1945 with Monteux and the San Francisco Symphony (I had high hopes, but it's rather dimly recorded and rushed). A highlight is the movement where the seals that disport around Neptune (Protee) are evoked by a choir of blaring, moaning tubas, a sound that once heard will not be forgotten. When the work was premiered in Paris in 1921, it provoked a riot that was said to have eclipsed the one that the premiere of Le Sacre set off. Sadly, there is no in-print modern recording AFAIK. Protee was originally conceived as the score for a ballet of that name conceived by Milhaud and his friend the poet-diplomat Paul Claudel when both men were living in Brazil, but the ballet was never staged and Milhaud drew his suite from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Referentzhunter Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) cd 1, Suite op.29, Verklarte Nacht & 3 pieces for Chambre Orchestra Edited September 17, 2019 by Referentzhunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Referentzhunter Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Larry Kart said: A download of William Steinberg and the Pittsburgh Symphony playing in 1952 Darius Milhaud's remarkable 20-minute suite Protee (1917). Far more radical than anything else by Milhaud, it's like a cross between Le Sacre and Varese, and this to my knowledge is its best recording. I also have one on EMI by Abravanel (somewhat bland) and one from 1945 with Monteux and the San Francisco Symphony (I had high hopes, but it's rather dimly recorded and rushed). A highlight is the movement where the seals that disport around Neptune (Protee) are evoked by a choir of blaring, moaning tubas, a sound that once heard will not be forgotten. When the work was premiered in Paris in 1921, it provoked a riot that was said to have eclipsed the one that the premiere of Le Sacre set off. Sadly, there is no in-print modern recording AFAIK. Protee was originally conceived as the score for a ballet of that name conceived by Milhaud and his friend the poet-diplomat Paul Claudel when both men were living in Brazil, but the ballet was never staged and Milhaud drew his suite from it. Can you recommend any essential recordings ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Kart Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Referentzhunter said: Can you recommend any essential recordings ? Yes -- The Steinberg download of Protee can be found here: http://www.mediafire.com/?u1jecvxczzj It's the only recording AFAIK that does the work justice, though it would be nice to have a performance of Protee that's this good and that was in top-flight modern sound. Though the Steinberg's sound is OK for its time (it's a live performance BTW), the work is, as some record label used to say, a "sonic spectacular." There may be a modern recording around somewhere, but I don't know of it. BTW the Pittsburgh Symphony in 1952 was quite a band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Referentzhunter Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) cd 1, Claude Debussy's Preludes Book 1 & 2 beginning. 'Dino Ciani'. Alfred Cortot called him miraculously gifted. 'Brilliant Classics', budget label that keeps improving. Little booklet included, nice cover also, cd's in seperate covers with information all conceiled in a nice clamshell-box. Found this in thriftshop for only 1.50 euro and i am very happy with it. Did forget to mention that the sound on these Brilliant boxes is really good ! Edited September 17, 2019 by Referentzhunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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