Alexander Hawkins Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Isn't it stunning??? This is my first listen...I got the record (which is in good nick) for about €2 the other whilst in Amsterdam for a gig...beautiful music, and what playing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Alexander Hawkins said: Isn't it stunning??? This is my first listen...I got the record (which is in good nick) for about €2 the other whilst in Amsterdam for a gig...beautiful music, and what playing... What a bargain .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Now playing: Joseph Haydn – Quartet for Strings No.67 in D major Op.64/5 Hob III:63 "Lark" – Quartet for Strings No.39 in C major Op.33/3 Hob III:39 "Bird" — Smetana Quartet Felix Mendelssohn – Octet in E-flat Major Op.20 Smetana Quartet & Panocha Quartet (Denon / Nippon Columbia Japan) Recorded live in Japan in 1980. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart – Divertimento for 2 Horns and Strings No.17 in D major K 334 (320b) – Serenade No.13 in G major K 525 "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" Chicago Symphony Orchestra – Fritz Reiner (RCA Victor Red Seal / Sony Classical) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Mozart - Violin Sonatas K.305 & K.3765 - Mozart - Violin Concerto No.7, K.268 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Thereof Symphony 4 .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Kart Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Fascinating works, all of them, especially the Sonata in F Minor (1948). Avowedly based on classical models, especially late Beethoven, this work ran so counter to then prevailing "progressive modern" compositional fashion that the work was hissed and booed by members of the audience at its 1949 NYC premiere (young serialist composer George Perle stood up and shouted either "Hurrah Beethoven!" or "Viva Beethoven!" -- accounts differ.) In any case, this hostile reception -- most of the those who booed and hissed were, like Perle, fellow young composers -- "...was enough for Shapero (b. 1920) to lapse into creative silence for many years," retreating into academic life to teach at Brandeis University from 1951 to 1988. I knew of this story and also knew of Shapero's similarly neo-classical Symphony for Classical Orchestra, which Andre Previn revived and recorded in the 1980s; there also was a previous recording of the Symphony from the early '50s or late '40s cond. by Leonard Bernstein. What I didn't reckon on is that while the language of these works is staunchly tonal and that there is the late-Beethoven skeleton to the Sonata in particular, the results sound quite unique and quite American to boot. Primarlly this is a matter of what might be called spacing. The harmonic relationships are tonal, but there is quite often so much distance in pitch (and even register) between one figure or gesture and the next that the music typically seems to be taking place in mid-air and at some height ... above, say, the Grand Canyon. Further, the emotional effect of this music and its methods -- at once so "open air" and with such a sense of calmly striding purposefulness -- is unique, too. Again, Shapero was an avowed neo-classicist, and the example of Stravinsky's personal transformative version of that mode was before his eyes, as were some aspects (in terms of spacing) of Copland. But then Shapero doesn't sound much like Stravinsky or Copland either. (BTW, Copland earlier on had spoken somewhat negatively of Shapero's "compulsion to fashion his music after some great model.... he seems to suffering from a hero-worship complex -- or perhaps it is a freakish attack of false modesty...." Be that as it may, just listen to these works and tell me they don't sound unique -- and, I think, terrific.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMkoHveSa0Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NuED8-SfWs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 BTW, on Amazon there's a an enthusiastic customer's review of the above Shapero album that's purportedly from "George Perle." I assume that was someone's idea of a joke, though it's not impossible that over time the real George Perle's view of the work turned 180 degrees. But if that were the case, I would think that the real Perle would say a little something about how what he shouted at the premiere of the work and the apparently dire effect the resulting ruckus had on Shapero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HutchFan Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Larry Kart said: Fascinating works, all of them, especially the Sonata in F Minor (1948). Avowedly based on classical models, especially late Beethoven, this work ran so counter to then prevailing "progressive modern" compositional fashion that the work was hissed and booed by members of the audience at its 1949 NYC premiere (young serialist composer George Perle stood up and shouted either "Hurrah Beethoven!" or "Viva Beethoven!" -- accounts differ.) In any case, this hostile reception -- most of the those who booed and hissed were, like Perle, fellow young composers -- "...was enough for Shapero (b. 1920) to lapse into creative silence for many years," retreating into academic life to teach at Brandeis University from 1951 to 1988. I knew of this story and also knew of Shapero's similarly neo-classical Symphony for Classical Orchestra, which Andre Previn revived and recorded in the 1980s; there also was a previous recording of the Symphony from the early '50s or late '40s cond. by Leonard Bernstein. What I didn't reckon on is that while the language of these works is staunchly tonal and that there is the late-Beethoven skeleton to the Sonata in particular, the results sound quite unique and quite American to boot. Primarlly this is a matter of what might be called spacing. The harmonic relationships are tonal, but there is quite often so much distance in pitch (and even register) between one figure or gesture and the next that the music typically seems to be taking place in mid-air and at some height ... above, say, the Grand Canyon. Further, the emotional effect of this music and its methods -- at once so "open air" and with such a sense of calmly striding purposefulness -- is unique, too. Again, Shapero was an avowed neo-classicist, and the example of Stravinsky's personal transformative version of that mode was before his eyes, as were some aspects (in terms of spacing) of Copland. But then Shapero doesn't sound much like Stravinsky or Copland either. (BTW, Copland earlier on had spoken somewhat negatively of Shapero's "compulsion to fashion his music after some great model.... he seems to suffering from a hero-worship complex -- or perhaps it is a freakish attack of false modesty...." Be that as it may, just listen to these works and tell me they don't sound unique -- and, I think, terrific.) Very interesting background info. Thanks for sharing, Larry. I'd never heard any of this before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Beethoven - String Quartet Op.18/4 Enescu - Poema Romana, Op.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deepak Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 On 2/3/2018 at 6:37 PM, Chuck Nessa said: Certainly not first choice, but fascinating. It took me some time to get used to Richter playing WTC on this recording, he adds some small flourishes here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Robert Schumann – Concerto for Piano in A minor Op.54 — Warsaw National Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra – Witold Rowicki – Introduction and Allegro appassionato for Piano and Orchestra in G major Op.92 — Warsaw National Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra – Stanislaw Wislocki Franz Liszt – Harmonies poétiques et réligieuses S.173/7 Funérailles – Hungarian Fantasy for Piano and Orchestra S.123 – Budapest Philharmonic Orchestra – János Ferencsik Sviatoslav Richter (piano) Béla Bartók – Concerto for Orchestra Sz 116 — Chicago Symphony Orchestra – Fritz Reiner (RCA Victor Red Seal Living Stereo / Sony Classical) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) Perreau, who wrote a biography on the composer, offers an insightfull essay on unaccompanied flute music, and plays with a lot of feeling. Edited February 8, 2018 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Sergei Rachmaninov – Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No.2 in C minor Op.18 — Philippe Entremont (piano), 1960 Sergei Prokofiev – Concerto for Violin and Orchestra No.2 in G minor Op.63 — Isaac Stern (violin), 1957 — New York Philharmonic – Leonard Bernstein (Sony Classical) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) Op.76/3 "Emperor" & Op.76/4 "Sunrise" Edited February 8, 2018 by Peter Friedman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Earlier today .... : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 (IMO) the only viable alternative to the Janacek Quartet`s reading from 1963 (also released on Supraphon) .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olie Brice Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, soulpope said: (IMO) the only viable alternative to the Janacek Quartet`s reading from 1963 (also released on Supraphon) .... I don't know the Janacek Quartet's version, the Smetana Quartet's is the best I've heard... but the Takacs are also wonderful with these, in my book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soulpope Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Olie Brice said: I don't know the Janacek Quartet's version, the Smetana Quartet's is the best I've heard... but the Takacs are also wonderful with these, in my book The Takacs take a more urging approach - nevertheless an excellent recording ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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