EKE BBB Posted February 24, 2004 Report Posted February 24, 2004 (edited) From their web-site: "Timeless Records was founded in 1975 and is specialised in a wide spectrum of jazz styles. Its roots can be traced back to the idea of the booking agent, Wim Wigt, who wanted to, and succeeded in, bringing American jazz to Europe. Later, jazz musicians from all over the world became an important addition to the Timeless Catalogue. The first record, Eastern Rebellion by Cedar Walton (along with George Coleman, Sam Jones, and Billy Higgins), was just the beginning of this excellent collection. To date, the catalogue consists of more than 700 titles, divided into three main categories. Timeless Records continues to grow, not only re-producing historical jazz but also producing the newer contributions to the jazz music genre. The collection can be purchased in all good, jazz music stores. Our website and mail-order services give all of our customers the chance to purchase the CD’s that may be difficult to order and/or locate. In the Contemporary Catalogue, you will find CD’s by some of the jazz greats such as: Art Blakey, Chet Baker, Bill Evans, Tommy Flanagan and Lionel Hampton. The Traditional Catalogue includes traditional style jazz by artists like; Chris Barber, Acker Bilk, the Dutch Swing College Band, and Monty Sunshine, just to name a few. In the Historical Catalogue you will find some of the first jazz recordings ever made; from the Original Dixieland Jazz Band and Louis Armstrong with Fletcher Henderson, as well as many others. The collection has been complimented with informative booklets written by expert jazz historians. These CD’s are masterpieces in audio restoration. Additionally, you will find other labels which can be purchased via our site, including; Limetree, Sunny, World Wide Jazz, and Jazz Oracle.Furthermore, we can supply CD’s from the labels: Lake, Frog and Upbeat." Two recommendations: Original Dixieland Band (1917 - 1921) CBC1009 The first recorded jazz sides are included. Historically speaking, a basic document. well, we can discuss the quality of ODJB music... and Coleman Hawkins (1934 - 1939) CBC1006 As far as I know (any correction is greatly appreciated) this one contains about half of the production Hawk did during his stance in Europe. Not all the sidemen are what you´d call top-notch, but I find it very interesting. Edited October 23, 2007 by EKE BBB Quote
EKE BBB Posted February 24, 2004 Author Report Posted February 24, 2004 BTW: How on hell do they have the nerve to apply the 1/1 rate for EUR/USD while selling on-line!!! Quote
LAL Posted February 24, 2004 Report Posted February 24, 2004 It's actually great for folks outside Europe living in countries whose currencies have/are appreciating against the USD. Too bad that's not happening where I am. Quote
EKE BBB Posted February 24, 2004 Author Report Posted February 24, 2004 LAL said: It's actually great for folks outside Europe living in countries whose currencies have/are appreciating against the USD. Too bad that's not happening where I am. Wish I could pay in USD at the present rate (1,2596 USD per EUR)... but if you order from Europe, you´re necessarily paying in EUR Quote
Dan Gould Posted February 24, 2004 Report Posted February 24, 2004 If you're interested in Timeless Records and are in the States, Peter Crawford of Stateside Distributors is the man to contact: 888-776-0436. And you won't have to argue about EUR/Dollar conversion rates. Quote
jazzbo Posted February 24, 2004 Report Posted February 24, 2004 These are fantastic releases, I haven't been keeping up with all their output but they're a really quality reissue program, among the best, those and Jazz Oracle are probably my favorites because the notes are so comprehensive and entertaining. As for the OJDB. . . I love the OJDB and have sought out their entire recordings. I'll never tire of hearing the best of them. It's only rock and roll but I like it! Quote
GA Russell Posted February 24, 2004 Report Posted February 24, 2004 One of my desert island discs is on Timeless - Mike Nock's In Out & Around, with Michael Brecker, George Mraz and Al Foster. I read all of the Lew Archer stories to it. Quote
cho Posted February 27, 2004 Report Posted February 27, 2004 I recently brought one on sale in HMV Hong Kong of a live recording in Holland by Belgian guitarist Rene Thomas in the 70s, excellant. Quote
EKE BBB Posted July 12, 2004 Author Report Posted July 12, 2004 Some advice needed: Are their Ragtime to Jazz series worth checking out? There are 3 volumes: CBC1035 Vol.1 1912-1919 Featuring: Original Dixieland Jass Band, Frisco Jass Band... CBC1045 Vol.2 1916-1922 Featuring: Fred Van Eps trio, ODJB, Earl Fuller's Famous Jazz Band, Jazz Band (Anonymously), Paul Biese and His Novelty Orchestra, Louisiana Five, and more... CBC1070 Vol.3 1902-1923 Featuring Fred Van Eps, William Van Eps, Frisco Jass Band, Eubie Blake, Mamie Smith Jazz Hounds, James P. Johnson... Looks like a mixed bag compilation. And volume 1 duplicates a good part of their other ODJB release. Any dates included not available elsewhere or difficult to find? Thanks in advance! Quote
EKE BBB Posted August 23, 2004 Author Report Posted August 23, 2004 Up! Any advice on the Ragtime to Jazz series? Quote
EKE BBB Posted August 23, 2004 Author Report Posted August 23, 2004 Their last release is: “UP AND AT ‘EM” - EARLY VICTOR ELECTRIC HOT DANCE BANDS CBC1072 with: Paul Whiteman & His Orchestra Ted Brownagle’s Orchestra Howard Lanin’s Orchestra Art Landry’s Orchestra Jack Crawford & His Orchestra Compiled by: John R.T. Davies and Mark Berresford Audio Restoration: John R.T. Davies Original Material: Mark Berresford, John R.T. Davies, and Alan Horspool Liner Notes: Mark Berresford Discography: Mark Berresford Photo Courtesy: Mark Berresford, Frank Driggs Production Coordination: Ria Wigt TRACK LISTING: PHILIP SPITALNY AND HIS ORCHESTRA 1. 35727-4 Hello Baby 3:03 (Seymore Simons - Richard A. Whiting) 2. 35728-2 Jackass Blues 2:35 (Art Kassel - Mel Stitzel) 3. 35729-2 Up And At 'Em 2:24 (Jack Pettis - Al Goering) 4. 35730-4 Rippin' It Off 2:45 (Stubby Gordon) TED BROWNAGLE AND HIS ORCHESTRA 5. 36540-3 The Lovin' Johnson Rag 2:59 (Guy Hall) 6. 36541-2 Arcadia Shuffle 2:48 (James Blade) HOWARD LANIN'S BEN FRANKLIN DANCE ORCHESTRA 7. 33433-2 Melancholy Lou 2:48 (Ray Hibbeler) GEORGE OLSEN AND HIS MUSIC 8. 34602-1 Too Bad 2:44 (Elmer Schoebel) 9. 33338-3 Hot Aire 3:02 (Elmer Schoebel) SEATTLE HARMONY KINGS 10. 33195-6 If I Had A Girl Like You 3:17 (Rose-Dixon-Henderson) 11. 33196-7 Darktown Shuffle 3:16 (Joe Thomas - Earl Baker) 12. 35940-6 Breezin' Along With the Breeze) 2:50 (Gillsepie- Simons- Whiting) 13. 35953-2 How Many Times 3:05 (Irving Berlin) FRED HAMM AND HIS ORCHESTRA 14. 32528-9 Stomp Off, Let's Go! 3:04 (Elmer Schoebel) 15. 32530-13 She's Got 'Im 3:01 (Isham Jones) 16. 32531-13 Bye Bye Blues 3:14 (Fred Hamm-Dave Bennett) 17. 32577-3 Flag That Train (To Alabam') 3:08 (Richmond-McPhail-Rothschild) 18. 34037-4 Want A Little Lovin' 2:30 (Benny Davis-Harry Warren) 19. 34039-3 Sugar Foot Stomp 2:47 (Joe Oliver-Louis Armstrong) BUSSE'S BUZZARDS 20. 32762-2 Deep Elm (You Tell 'Em I'm Blue) 3:21 (William R. Clay-Willard Robison) 21. 33351-5 Red Hot Henry Brown 3:40 (Fred Rose) 22. 33379-2 Milenberg Joys 3:13 (Rappolo-Mares-Morton) 23. 34179-3 The Monkey Doodle Doo 2:51 (Irving Berlin) ART LANDRY AND HIS ORCHESTRA 24. 33657-3 Slippery Elm 3:08 (Boyd Senter) JACK CRAWFORD AND HIS ORCHESTRA 25. 40123-3 Hurricane 3:12 Total playing time 76:21 Released on Marc 24. Available in the USA since June 15. Quote
jazzbo Posted August 23, 2004 Report Posted August 23, 2004 I can't comment specifically on the Ragtime to Jazz cds because I don't have them. I do have most of the material on separate cds, and it's good material in a very early jazz way. How they sound in these releases and how the compilation aspect hits you I can't say. . . . I'm not a huge fan of mixes or compilations, so I'd rather have the material as I have it. (Which includes compilations, but also single artist cds in the case of ODJB etc.) Quote
paul secor Posted August 23, 2004 Report Posted August 23, 2004 A couple of highly recommended records from the Timeless contemporary list: Machito and his Salsa Big Band 1982 - Timeless 161 Machito!!! - Timeless 183 And not just recommended to lovers of latin jazz! Quote
Late Posted November 5, 2004 Report Posted November 5, 2004 EKE BBB said: Coleman Hawkins (1934 - 1939) CBC1006 EKE, this is a favorite of mine — with great J.R.T. Davies remastering! Hawkins' vocal on "Love Cries" always makes me laugh. Hawkins' playing (and Django's, where he's featured) is also superb. Any words on these Timeless recordings ... or sound samples somewhere? Quote
sidewinder Posted November 6, 2004 Report Posted November 6, 2004 I remember picking up the first couple of 'Eastern Rebellion' albums, which were a huge breath of fresh air at the time. Quote
LAL Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 Get Alex Hill's "Ain't It Nice"! This CD contains Alex's appearance as a sideman or on his own sessions as leader (duo, hokum trio and band) playing many of his own compositions. His arranging for these groups give the music an extra lift and the version of "The Eel" on which Bud Freeman features is just marvellous. This is essential music for vintage jazz fans, IMO. The companion CD "Keep A Song In Your Soul" features other artists interpreting Alex's compositions and arrangements by him. Beau Koo Jack (Louis and Earl Hines) is one. See here for more on Alex. Quote
kh1958 Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 (edited) Reflections in Blue is an excellent Blakey date, with the Blanchard/Harrison/Toussaint/Miller edition of the Jazz Messengers. Timeless released a number of recordings by George Adams and Don Pullen that I strongly recommend. In addition, there is the Kirk Lightsey-Freddie Hubbard date Temptation, which is one of Freddie's greatest recordings. Edited June 30, 2006 by kh1958 Quote
EKE BBB Posted October 23, 2007 Author Report Posted October 23, 2007 New release on Timeless Historical: Pathé & Cameo Jazzbands 1921-1928 ( NEW RELEASE: CBC 1091 ) USD/EUR12.99 CBC1091 Complete hot recordings by ten 1920s jazzbands with Red Nichols, the Dorseys, Jack Pettis and more Timeless Historical presents PATHÉ & CAMEO JAZZBANDS 1924-1928 The Pathé and Cameo labels; a bit of history Pathé Sound from gramophone records is based on technology and therefore it is a matter of standards. There are standards for rotation speed, size, groove shape, spindle hole, cutting method, etc. Before the recording industry finally agreed on these standards, most companies went their own way. They had to, as competition was strong and any technological advantage would be patented. Therefore patents would be infringed if they used each other’s standards. As a result the first decades of the gramophone industry saw a wealth of different recording and manufactoring methods. Some record companies would even advertise that their records would play best on a record player from the same company. Pathé records started in Paris, France, in the late 1890’s. Its first product was almost a copy of the Edison phonograph, playing vertically cut cylinders only, but soon Pathé started its own recording studio and a few years later disc records were being added to the catalog. These used a different speed, several different sizes and a different groove shape from Edison discs. However, when Pathé set up an American branch in 1914, they started to follow some of the emerging US standards. Pathé grooves were still hill-and-dale with a special shape, requiring a special record player, but a few years later they began to issue “normal” lateral cut records as well. It would take until 1925 before they finally stopped manufactoring hill-and-dale in the USA1. The first tracks of the present CD were originally recorded just before Pathé made this move. In the meantime the company had introduced a secondary label next to its main Pathé label. This new label was called Perfect and could be bought for 50 cents, whereas a Pathé record sold at 75 cents, the normal sales price for top labels such as Columbia and Victor. Usually Pathé Tracks: Lido Venice Dance Orchestra (Harl Smith, Director) 1. 105394 I Wonder What's Become Of Sally? 3.02 2. 105395 San 3.08 Harl Smith and his Orchestra 3. 105597 Bring Back Those Rock-A-Bye Baby Days 3.10 Hotel Biltmore Orchestra 4. 105834 When My Sugar Walks Down The Street 2.45 The Texas Ten 5. 106007 Sweet Georgia Brown 2.55 6. 106008 Charleston 2.58 Seven Missing Links 7. 106159 Milenberg Joys 2.38 8. 106168 Angry 2.33 9. 6136-2 Milenberg Joys 3.00 Bill Wirges and his Orchestra 10. 105902 Cheatin' On Me 3.01 11. 106446 Shake That Thing 3.00 Mickey Guy's Hottentots 12. 106741 Two Ton Tessie 2.28 13. 106742 Rhythm Rag 2.33 Mal Hallett and his Orchestra 14. 106785-a She's A Corn-fed Indiana Girl 2.51 Ole Olsen and his Orchestra 15. 106983 Sadie Green (The Vamp Of New Orleans) 2.55 16. 106984 Take Your Time 2.33 17. 106985 Snag It 2.32 Alabama Red Peppers 18. 2788-c San 2.48 19. 2833-b Red Head Blues 2.48 20. 2834-a The Drag 2.36 21. 2835-c The New Twister 2.27 22. 3070-a Riverboat Shuffle 2.39 23. 3071-a Eccentric 2.25 The Lumberjacks 24. 3409-b Spanish Dream 2.42 25. 3411-c Black Beauty 2.33 Joe Ward's Swanee Club Orchestra 26. 3476-c Traffic Jam 2.18 27. 3477-a Scorchin' 2.19 Total playing time 74.35 Quote
EKE BBB Posted October 23, 2007 Author Report Posted October 23, 2007 FWIW, here's the complete list from the Timeless Historical sub-label: Sharkey Bonano (1928 - 1937) CBC1001 Qty : Tempo King (1936 - 1937) CBC1002 Qty : Fletcher Henderson and Louis Armstrong (1924 - 1925) CBC1003 Qty : Bing Crosby (1926 - 1932) CBC1004 Qty : Hot British Dance Bands (1925 - 1937) CBC1005 Qty : Coleman Hawkins (1934 - 1939) CBC1006 Qty : Ethel Waters (1929 - 1939) CBC1007 Qty : Dick Robertson and Orchestra (1937 - 1939) CBC1008 Qty : Original Dixieland Band (1917 - 1921) CBC1009 Qty : Harlem Big Bands (1925 - 1931) CBC1010 Hoagy Carmichael (1927 - 1939) CBC1011 Qty : Willie the Lion Smith (1935 - 1937) CBC1012 Qty : Bix Beiderbecke (1924 - 1925) CBC1013 Qty : New Orleans in the '20s CBC1014 Qty : Johnny Dodds and Jimmy Blythe (1926 - 1928) CBC1015 Qty : Teddy Grace (1937 - 1940) CBC1016 Qty : Goofus Five (1926 - 1927) CBC1017 Qty : Mound City Blue Blowers (1935 - 1936) CBC1018 Qty : Red McKenzie (1935 - 1936) CBC1019 Qty : Jazz Goes to the Movies (1930 - 1940) CBC1020 Jazz from the Windy City (1927 - 1930) CBC1021 Qty : Tiny Parham (1928 - 1930) CBC1022 Qty : Putney Dandridge (1935 - 1936) CBC1023 Qty : Eddie Condon CBC1024 Qty : Charlie Shavers and the Blues Singers (1938 - 1939) CBC1025 Qty : The '30s Girls CBC1026 Qty : King Oliver - The Compositions of Jelly Roll Morton CBC1027 Qty : Sidney Bechet - Young Sidney Bechet CBC1028 Qty : Cotton Pickers, The CBC1029 Qty : Big Charlie Thomas CBC1030 Georgia Melodians CBC1031 Qty : Boyd Senter CBC1032 Qty : Jimmy Joy - Jazz in Texas CBC1033 Qty : Lionel Hampton - Jazz in California CBC1034 Qty : Ragtime to Jazz 1 - Original Dixieland Jass Band CBC1035 Qty : Charles Creath - Jazz in St. Louis CBC1036 Qty : Little Ramblers, The CBC1037 Qty : Charles Fulcher and His Orchestra - Jazz from Atlanta CBC1038 Qty : Ruben Reeves - Ruben Reeves: The Complete Vocalions CBC1039 Qty : CHARLESTON CHASERS VOL. 1 (1925-1930) CBC1040 The Benson Orchestra of Chicago - The Chicago Hot Bands CBC1041 Qty : Goofus Five (1924 - 1925) CBC1042 Qty : Eddie Lang - The Quintessential Eddie Lang CBC1043 Qty : George Chisholm - Early Days CBC1044 Qty : Ragtime to Jazz 2 - Nick La Rocca CBC1045 Qty : FIRST DAYS OF JAZZ, THE CBC1046 Qty : Ted Heath - The Rhythm Rascals, Swing Rhythm Boys, Sid Phillips CBC1047 Qty : Blue Ribbon Syncopators - Jazz Is Where You Find It CBC1048 Qty : Original Memphis Five CBC1049 Qty : Alex Hill - Ain't It Nice? CBC1050 Peanuts Hucko - Glenn Miller's G.I.'s in Paris CBC1051 Qty : CALIFORNIA RAMBLERS (1925-1928) CBC1053 Qty : Alex Hill - Keep A Song in Your Soul! CBC1054 Qty : Brunswick / Vocalion - Odds & Bits CBC1055 Qty : CLARENCE WILLIAMS & HIS ORCHESTRA VOL. 1 (1933-1934) CBC1056 Qty : CLARENCE WILLIAMS & HIS ORCHESTRA VOL. 2 (1933 - 1937) CBC1057 Qty : Bernie Cummins & his Orchestra (1924-1930) CBC1058 Qty : Abe Lyman & his California Orchestra - Hot Recordings by a West Coast Band 1922-1932 CBC1059 Qty : Bands Of Vic Meyers (1923-1929) Vick Myers (1925-1926), The CBC1060 Qty : Fred Elizalde - Jazz In California CBC1061 Varsity Eight - featuring Adrian Rollini & Red Nichols CBC1062 Qty : THOSE FABULOUS GENNETTS VOL. 1 (1923-1925) CBC1063 Qty : Fletcher Henderson - The Harmony & Vocalion Sessions (1925-1 CBC1064 Qty : Benny Goodman - (1931-1935) CBC1065 Qty : RAY MILLER AND HIS BRUNSWICK ORCHESTRA - (1924-1929) CBC1066 Qty : ISHAM JONES AND HIS ORCHESTRA (1922-1926) CBC1067 Qty : TIGHT WOMEN & LOOSE BANDS - (1921-1931) CBC1068 Qty : FLETCHER HENDERSON - THE HARMONY & VOCALION SESSIONS (1927-1928) Vol. 2 CBC1069 Qty : FROM RAGTIME TO JAZZ - Vol. 3 (1902-1923) CBC1070 Qty : EARLY CHICAGO JAZZ VOL. 1 (1923-1925) CBC1071 “UP AND AT ‘EM” - EARLY VICTOR ELECTRIC HOT DANCE BANDS CBC1072 Qty : Perry Bradford - "A Panorama" (1923-1927) CBC1073 Qty : TED LEWIS & HIS BAND 1929-1934 CBC1074 Qty : EARLY CHICAGO JAZZ VOL. 2 (1923-1928) CBC1076 Qty : "The Complete Ladd's Black Aces 1921-1924" Double CD CBC1077 Qty : JAZZ ON AMERICA'S WEST COAST 1924-1930 CBC1078 Qty : THE HERB WIEDOEFT / JESSE STAFFORD ORCHESTRA 1922-1930 CBC1079 Qty : THOSE FABULOUS GENNETTS VOL. 2 (1922-1925) CBC1080 Qty : CHARLESTON CHASERS VOL. 2 (1928-1930) CBC1081 Qty : From Ragtime To Jazz - Vol.4 (1896-1922) NEW RELEASE CBC1085 Qty : AMERICANS IN HOLLAND CBC1086 Qty : Roll Up The Carpets - 'Everybody Dance" - NEW RELEASE OCT. 2006 CBC1087 Qty : "The Young Benny Goodman" 1928-1931 CBC1088 Qty : Ben Selvin and his Orchestra 1924 - 1926 CBC1089 Qty : CBC 1090 - Adrian Rollini And The Golden Gate Orchestra 1924 - 1927 CBC1090 Qty : Pathé & Cameo Jazzbands 1921-1928 ( NEW RELEASE: CBC 1091 ) CBC1091 Quote
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