xybert Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Are The Tokyo Concert and Live in Tokyo the same album? http://www.allmusic.com/album/the-tokyo-concert-mw0000308131http://www.allmusic.com/album/live-in-tokyo-mw0000197493 Same cover image.One's on Sony, one's on Fantasy/OJC.Same track list but slightly different track times.I might have read it wrong but the Penguin Guide lists them separately and notes that the Sony has a slightly better version of Up With The Lark (unless there is a third Tokyo album that they're referring to).Anyone able to help clear this up for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted O'Reilly Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 I'd say pretty much 100% the same material, and that any timing differences are whether or not the productions include applause times or not. I happen to really like that album (and that trio -- got to know Marty Morrell well after his Evans trio days) and especially the composition "Up With The Lark", which was a staple for the '70s group, but rarely played by other jazz artists.Also, if I recall, the concert was recorded by a Tokyo radio station for broadcast purposes, and taken up by Fantasy for release. There are a couple of extra tracks that never came out, I think: "Emily", "Who Can I Turn To" and "Waltz For Debby", all represented in the Fantasy (and other) vaults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xybert Posted October 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Thanks Ted. If it is the same show, i guess Fantasy licensed it for release in the states and Sony licensed it for release in Japan, for whatever reason. Anyway, i've ordered the OJC (the Sony is being reissued in November but i'm too impatient) so i'm looking forward to getting my hands on it. I'm really enjoying what i've heard from this trio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Original Fantasy LPs say "Recorded by CBS/Sony" for whatever that's worth, and give thanks for the cooperation in the production of the original recording to...I really can't read it past that, but it's on Discogs here: http://www.discogs.com/Bill-Evans-The-Tokyo-Concert/release/4914126They go so far as to give credit to the original designers of the cover.Maybe/maybe not relevant is that Milestone had a previous relationship with Japanese CBS/Sony, although with Evans/Keane, that was probably another ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 This gets a mention in the notes to the cd issue of the Bill Evans album. Keepnews writes that Columbia failed to take up the option of the concert tape and it was subsequently snapped up by Fantasy. Presumably Columbia had lost interest in Evans by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xybert Posted October 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Interesting info, thanks all.At least i can rest easy knowing that they're essentially the same album. I know that the Penguin Guide makes the occasional editorial faux pas, which is understandable, but it's quite funny that in the ninth edition they list The Tokyo Concert and Live In Tokyo separately and note that "... both Japanese concerts are straight ahead and flow with ideas; 'Up With The Lark' on the OJC is a marvellous piece, and the Columbia version is almost as good."Here's some of the publishing history copy/pasted from the Discogs link that JSngry posted:Title (Format)LabelCat#CountryYear Bill Evans Live In Tokyo (LP, Album)CBS/Sony, CBS/SonySOPM 40, SOPM-40Japan1973 The Tokyo Concert (LP, Album)Fantasy9160-9457Canada1973 The Tokyo Concert (LP, Album, RE)Original Jazz Classics, FantasyOJC-345, F-9457US1988 Bill Evans Live In Tokyo (LP, Album, RE)CBS/Sony20AP 1831Japan1980 The Tokyo Concert (LP, Album)FantasyF-9457US1974 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 If you want to have a WTF? laugh, look at the label images for the OJC LP issue. Pretty sure that's not the label of the original issue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 This is probably my most often played Evans recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 There are three tracks that did not appear on the initial releases of this album: Emily, Who Can I Turn To, and Waltz for Debby. I believe that some of the more recent reissues have added them, which might be part of the confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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