Bob Dylan - The Cutting Edge - Bootleg Series 12

[felser]

I don't normally go for this sort of thing, but this may be the exception.  I'll certainly at least spring for the 2CD highlights set.

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/bob-dylan-the-cutting-edge-1965-66-the-bootleg-series-vol-12/?mc_cid=15fd656033&mc_eid=7c07e0d1a3

 

 

[danasgoodstuff]

That's $3,000,000 for the 5,000 collector editions @ $600 each plus all the other versions revenue - Bob's reviving the economy all by himself!

[mr jazz]

He must have looked at the 30 Trips pricing.

[jazzbo]

I'm in for the six cd set.

[soulpope]

Most likely the 2-CD Set should satisfy my needs ....

[jazzbo]

It would suit me probably too. . . but I can't help but wonder what those takes of Visions of Johanna (one of my favorite Dylan works of all time) sound like as I love the one they put on Bootleg Vol.7 more than the original released take. . . and a whole disc of the evolution of Like a Rolling Stone? I want to hear that.

[soulpope]

It would suit me probably too. . . but I can't help but wonder what those takes of Visions of Johanna (one of my favorite Dylan works of all time) sound like as I love the one they put on Bootleg Vol.7 more than the original released take. . . and a whole disc of the evolution of Like a Rolling Stone? I want to hear that.

don`t get me wrong, the 6-CD set looks tempting nevertheless .....

[mjzee]

At this moment, I don't know that I need any of it.  An entire disc of LARS?  To offer an analogy, I love Charlie Chaplin shorts.  They're a marvel of lyricism, humor and astonishment.  In the '90's, a series appeared called The Unknown Chaplin.  Through outtakes, it showed the painstaking work that went into his short films.  For me, it removed the magic: I saw the work that went into the films rather than simply being able to enjoy them.

[felser]

The Greil Marcus book about Like A Rolling Stone is a fascinating read if you care deeply about the record.  To me, it defined my generation in many ways, but YMMV greatly.   

[jazzbo]

mjzee, to me this sort of thing can be fascinating, and reminds me of rehearsing and recording sessions I participated in in Austin so many years ago. I'm looking forward to it.

I've read that book John, a good read.

[alankin]

I'll look for that book.  Might do the six version set.  I think I need to see how it goes in my new job, which starts next week.

[AllenLowe]

just ordered the 6 cd'er.  As my grandma used to say to me, 'it's all over now, baby, nu?'

[mjzee]

I'll look for that book.  Might do the six version set.  I think I need to see how it goes in my new job, which starts next week.

Good luck!

[felser]

I'll look for that book.  Might do the six version set.  I think I need to see how it goes in my new job, which starts next week.

http://www.amazon.com/Like-Rolling-Stone-Dylan-Crossroads/dp/158648382X

$.01 + $3.99 shipping on Amazon Marketplace for the book.

 

[mjzee]

Track listing for the 18-disc set: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/thecuttingedge_completetracklisting

[Dave Garrett]

An interesting analysis of what's on the 18-disc set from that other forum:

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/bob-dylan-bootleg-series-vol-xii-the-cutting-edge-11-6.387120/page-86#post-13047097

And from Expecting Rain:

http://expectingrain.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=85325

[felser]

No way I'm going 18 discs with false starts, etc.  Maybe 6 discs, probably 2 discs.  And I LOVE the original albums.

[JSngry]

Somebody please tell me that there's a bootleg of the complete Like A Rolling Stone session, but only if it's raw, unedited/uncut/unmixed session tape, like some of the Sinatra things, tapes start rolling and never stop. Listening to it as "excerpts" would be tedious, but hearing it all unfold naturally, in real time, that's got epic potential, although in Sinatra's case, the "perfect take" was in fact just that, there's an element of hunt leading to capture that is compelling, and on the rare occasion when Sinatra goes past that perfect take, he knows what he's done and stops it from going any further. Was the released "Like A Rolling Stone" taken (more or less) for a single take? Even at that, I might be good to listen to it.

 

[romualdo]

just looked at the hoffman site - the 18CD set contains lots of breakdowns & incomplete takes

the way the aussie dollar is at present, the set will cost over $1000 i.e. $55 per disc

Maybe good for a library or archival situation but how many times would you listen to this material - the 6CD set seems ideal to me

[felser]

Somebody please tell me that there's a bootleg of the complete Like A Rolling Stone session, but only if it's raw, unedited/uncut/unmixed session tape, like some of the Sinatra things, tapes start rolling and never stop. Listening to it as "excerpts" would be tedious, but hearing it all unfold naturally, in real time, that's got epic potential, although in Sinatra's case, the "perfect take" was in fact just that, there's an element of hunt leading to capture that is compelling, and on the rare occasion when Sinatra goes past that perfect take, he knows what he's done and stops it from going any further. Was the released "Like A Rolling Stone" taken (more or less) for a single take? Even at that, I might be good to listen to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@ Jim, Yes, one take.  Take 4 on June 16.  They still tried 11 more takes, but had the perfect one on tape.  Fascinating writing about the recording process in the Marcus book.

Edited September 28, 2015 by felser
trying to clear out quoting weirdness

[JSngry]

That's the difference between Sinatra & Dylan right there, then, if Sinatra had hit it on Take 4, there might have been a Take 5, very remotely possibly a Take 6, but definitely not takes 7-11.

But now I'm wondering what all went on for takes 5-15, what was being went for that didn't happen...because god, that released take, that thing still gets my fire going, some real viseceracality there.

I don't know about even the smallest version of this set, I mean, yeah, it's the best Dylan for me, but, I dunno, I'm not obsessive about Dylan in the least, I have some, and it's not a little, but it's not a lot, and it tends to go as far as I want it to whenever I go there. But that one session, yeah, I want to hear that.

[colinmce]

150 pages before the thing is even out.  The Hoffmanites never disappoint.

I will be getting the 6.

Edited September 30, 2015 by colinmce

[John L]

I'll certainly get the 6-disc set, and really hope to hear the 18-disc set at least once.   These are exactly the years that Dylan walked on water. 

[danasgoodstuff]

Or maybe, just maybe, it will humanize him once we've all seen the nuts 'n bolts...

[John L]

Good point.  A little bit of ignorance may indeed be needed for the bliss of Dylan's music from that period.