LF Transition label LP TRLP-18

[Kevin Bresnahan]

I'm still waiting to hear back (again) from Jay's niece. She has replied a few times via Facebook but has gone silent.

[Stonewall15]

What gives me hope is the LP is listed in the Lord Discography. I think this suggests that the LP was on the way to release and somehow did not make it. The tape or the LP may be tucked away in some closet or other storage medium. I if it shows up I hope that Fresh Sounds Records would release it on CD as they have done with other Transition LPs.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Sorry to say, but Patty Migliori's niece & nephew say that they have not found any more studio recordings of their uncle. So if this tape was given to Jay, he didn't keep it anywhere with the rest of his tapes.

[sonnymax]

16 hours ago, Kevin Bresnahan said:

Sorry to say, but Patty Migliori's niece & nephew say that they have not found any more studio recordings of their uncle. So if this tape was given to Jay, he didn't keep it anywhere with the rest of his tapes.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

What his niece said was, "I checked with my cousin and if it’s a studio recording they don’t have it." This does seem to imply that there might be more live recordings. Maybe one of those "live" recordings is a mislabeled studio date?

[JSngry]

Did Tom Wilson leave an "estate" or did he just die?

[Kevin Bresnahan]

13 hours ago, JSngry said:

Did Tom Wilson leave an "estate" or did he just die?

Didn't Wilson sell the masters of the Transition label back in the 50's? Even if he kept this one, he's been gone since 1978 so if there were any tapes in his possession, you would think someone would have done something with them by now.

Was the Pepper Adams session from TRLP8 ever released on another label?

[JSngry]

I would assume nothing about the disposition of effects unless there was a formal estate plan.

I don't know any real details, but it seems maybe that Tom Wilson led a somewhat hedonistic lifestyle, so that might be a trail worth following if it's not too late already.

[Chuck Nessa]

Back in the mid '60s while working at Delmark we purchased 3 Transition masters (1 Donald Byrd & 2 Sun Ra) from a firm with Phoenix in the corporate name. No indication Tom Wilson was involved at this point.

[jazzbo]

Re: Pepper Adams

I found this (easily, those here may have read this) on this page: https://richardvacca.com/tom-wilson-and-transition-records/

Other projects were recorded but never released. There was a Boston quintet co-led by tenor saxophonist Jay Migliori and trumpeter Tommy Ball; one track was issued on a sampler LP and the rest has yet to emerge. One track survives from a Dave Coleman date featuring baritone saxophonist Pepper Adams and violinist Dick Wetmore. A Paul Chambers session included Adams, John Coltrane, and trombonist Curtis Fuller. Complete session tapes have never surfaced.

[Stonewall15]

Three tracks from the the Pepper Adams/Curtis Fuller session on the unissued TRLP-8 were released. First on Blue Note LP BN-LA451-H2 and then on Mosaic Select Paul Chambers MS-005 CD#2. They are "Trane's Strain", "High Step" and "Nixon, Dixon and Yates Blues". "Trane's Strain" also was released on TRLP-30.

The Dave Coleman session on TRLP-12 was never issued. One song "Backstreet" with Dave Coleman, Dick Wetmore and Pepper Adams was released on TRLP-30. 

[Kevin Bresnahan]

2 hours ago, Stonewall15 said:

Three tracks from the the Pepper Adams/Curtis Fuller session on the unissued TRLP-8 were released. First on Blue Note LP BN-LA451-H2 and then on Mosaic Select Paul Chambers MS-005 CD#2. They are "Trane's Strain", "High Step" and "Nixon, Dixon and Yates Blues". "Trane's Strain" also was released on TRLP-30.

The Dave Coleman session on TRLP-12 was never issued. One song "Backstreet" with Dave Coleman, Dick Wetmore and Pepper Adams was released on TRLP-30. 

I have those 3 tracks on the Paul Chambers CD "Chambers' Music". So I guess maybe one or two tracks are missing from this unissued LP? Because the 3 issued tracks total 27 minutes.

[Chuck Nessa]

37 minutes ago, Kevin Bresnahan said:

I have those 3 tracks on the Paul Chambers CD "Chambers' Music". So I guess maybe one or two tracks are missing from this unissued LP? Because the 3 issued tracks total 27 minutes.

and here...

[clifford_thornton]

wonder if the Chambers session was even a complete date? i.e., 3 tracks and maybe some false starts/unusable takes.

[Stonewall15]

Could very well be that the 3 tracks were the only ones usable and did not warrant the release of TRLP-8.

[Stonewall15]

Bump. Maybe 2025 will be my lucky year by finding TRLP-18!